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    Re: Leach, Suggs & Ngata are 1st team All-Pros



    Here we go again, looking at individual statistics and determining that one player is this and that.

    What SS has played better than Troy? We've all seen what that defense is like without him. They go to pieces.
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    Re: Leach, Suggs & Ngata are 1st team All-Pros

    Quote Originally Posted by 52decleetzu View Post
    Tell me what Troy Polamalu has done in 2011 to be named one of the 2 best safeties in the NFL, other than being on a lot of commercials and getting fellated by the national media week after week.

    He didn't have a TURNOVER (FF OR Int) until WEEK 14. he was the ONLY DB in the entire league to not have one by week 12.

    While you are at it make your case for Pouncey this year, or last year. or any year.

    You really don't want to get into this argument with me, because I will smash you with the facts like I have done many times before homer.
    You have been quite a smasher. I remember some of your posts bragging about hunting down Steeler's fans at the games and harrassing them and then stealing and burning towels. You are obviously quite the fan.




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    Re: Leach, Suggs & Ngata are 1st team All-Pros

    Hair's turnovers are down this year but his tackles are up by a mile compared to the past few years. He's been a tackling machine.

    Full disclosure; it was funny watching the Benglas throw that TD pass right over him while he just stood there... not sure what was up with that.
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    Re: Leach, Suggs & Ngata are 1st team All-Pros

    The Steelers won twelves games, while their offense put out performances that Ravens fans would roast Flacco and Cameron for. Troy has been a major reason for that. Woodley has been hurt. Harrison has been hurt. Keisel has been hurt. Troy has been the one constant.

    Until you can name me a SS that has had that type of impact this year, I am sticking with the idea that Troy Polamalu is a first team All-Pro.
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    Re: Leach, Suggs & Ngata are 1st team All-Pros

    Quote Originally Posted by The Excellector View Post
    Here we go again, looking at individual statistics and determining that one player is this and that.

    What SS has played better than Troy? We've all seen what that defense is like without him. They go to pieces.
    Bernard Pollard? I'd argue he's made a lot more big time plays this season than Polamalu has...could be that Pollard has passes thrown in his direction though.

    Tyvon Branch had 109 tackles, 1 sack, 1 INT, and 1 FR. He led all SS's in tackles.
    Yeremiah Bell had 107 tackles, 5 passes defensed, 2 sacks, and 1 INT.
    George Wilson had 106 tackles, 10 passes defensed, and 4 INT's. He had a hell of a year.
    Kam Chancellor had 97 tackles, 16 PD's, 2 sacks, 2 FF, 1 FR, and 4 INT's. Also had a couple of helmet-to-helmet calls.
    Roman Harper had 75 tackles and almost 8 sacks.
    Charlie Peprah had 15 PD's, 1 FF, and 5 INT's.
    Kenny Phillips had 15 PD's and 4 INT's and 1 FF.


    Honestly, IMO, George Wilson and Kam Chancellor were the two best SS's in the NFL this past year. I watched a few Buffalo games and Wilson is really REALLY underrated.
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    Re: Leach, Suggs & Ngata are 1st team All-Pros

    Pollard is the real reason why there have been more big plays against this defense than normal.
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    Re: Leach, Suggs & Ngata are 1st team All-Pros

    Quote Originally Posted by The Excellector View Post
    Pollard is the real reason why there have been more big plays against this defense than normal.
    He definitely gave up, or was part of giving up, some big plays down the field.

    That said, he made a lot of big plays as well in coverage and in run support.
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    Re: Leach, Suggs & Ngata are 1st team All-Pros

    Not as many as Troy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Excellector View Post
    Pollard is the real reason why there have been more big plays against this defense than normal.
    Como se what? I'm going to check the stats but to my eyes, this year's d has been light years better against the big play than the last couple of years.

    Further, you're going to have to demonstrate specifically the large number of big plays that Pollard is responsible for giving up.


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    Re: Leach, Suggs & Ngata are 1st team All-Pros

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    Como se what? I'm going to check the stats but to my eyes, this year's d has been light years better against the big play than the last couple of years.

    Further, you're going to have to demonstrate specifically the large number of big plays that Pollard is responsible for giving up.


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    This year's defense is better, but there have been more big plays given up this year. The first one that jumps out to me is the TD that Jacoby Jones caught when Houston came to town. Last week, there was a short pass that went for a long gain, out of the flat, due to Pollard not communicating properly. There was a big play in Seattle when Pollard abandoned his responsibility and let the back go by him.

    I want to be clear. I think that Pollard has been an improvement over Landry. I think that the defense is certainly playing better than last year. The premise of my criticism was Wicked's idea that Bernard Pollard was more deserving of being a First Team All-Pro, over Troy Polamalu. The motive, within my comments, does not go beyond arguing that point.
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    Re: Leach, Suggs & Ngata are 1st team All-Pros

    Quote Originally Posted by 52decleetzu View Post
    Sorry if I take awards that get players into the Hall of Fame so seriously.

    I would just like to see who deserve it get it for a change? Guess that is too much to ask.
    LOL nah you're funny cause you're the guy always posting links of other message boards pretty much sound just like you just did.

    Just thought the irony was hilarious.


    I agree with you though, Palumalu hasn't done much to be named to the all pro team this season. THIS SEASON. I try to catch as many steelers games as i can, i don't see it.
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