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    Re: OK Raven fans I still need your help!!!!!!!



    I think it's a smart idea unless a handful of others in your pool get the same idea and reduce the advantage in picking the opposite game.

    If you do, I'd go with the 49ers.




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    Re: OK Raven fans I still need your help!!!!!!!

    Very very tough week SteelGirl. Much tougher than the others so far. There is no safe pick. If it was me I would like Kyle Cactus go with the 49ers.

    They are looking at a ton of rain for SF. The Stick has always been a mess when that happens. The strength of the Giants is their ability to pressure the QB with their front 4. A big running back on a messy field could neutralize that strength. The 49ers could play 2 TE all day and just pound the ball.

    It could also take a lot of the speed away from those Giants receivers. The Giants are not a running team despite their backs. Everything is lining up for the 49ers.
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    Re: OK Raven fans I still need your help!!!!!!!

    There are no guarantees this round. Any pick you make has risks. But if it was me I would take the 49ers and here is why:

    -The Giants this week have traved from Green Bay to New York and then out to San Francisco. That is a lot of miles and it has to cut into film and prep time.
    -Everybody is talking up the Giants and Eli but the best player on the field will be Patrick Willis.
    - Alex Smith proved at home last week that he can generate offense at home. Vernon Davis is playing really well and GOre seems healthy.
    - Here is the leap of faith. You are what your record says you are and the Giants record says they are an up and down team. Beating a worthless Falcons team at home proves nothing. The Green Bay win was good, but it does not prepare them for the 49ers defense. Totally different game.

    This will be an ugly game, like 16-9 but the deciding factor will be the home field advantage and I am much more comfortable with that pick than any other. I have no idea what will happen in the Ravens Patriots game.




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    Re: OK Raven fans I still need your help!!!!!!!

    Thanks for all your help!!!!

    I AM REALLY A HUGE RAVEN FAN TODAY!!!!!! *uck the Patriots!!!!!

    In the poll, there are 11 Patriots and I have chosen the Giants. I went back and forth between the Giants and 49ers but settled on the Giants. I surely hope everyone here is happy after the first game because I sure will be as well.

    GOOD LUCK EVERYONE!!!!!!




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    Re: OK Raven fans I still need your help!!!!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by SteelGirl View Post
    Thanks for all your help!!!!

    I AM REALLY A HUGE RAVEN FAN TODAY!!!!!! *uck the Patriots!!!!!

    In the poll, there are 11 Patriots and I have chosen the Giants. I went back and forth between the Giants and 49ers but settled on the Giants. I surely hope everyone here is happy after the first game because I sure will be as well.

    GOOD LUCK EVERYONE!!!!!!
    Thank you SteelGirl.
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    Re: OK Raven fans I still need your help!!!!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by SteelGirl View Post
    Thanks for all your help!!!!

    I AM REALLY A HUGE RAVEN FAN TODAY!!!!!! *uck the Patriots!!!!!

    In the poll, there are 11 Patriots and I have chosen the Giants. I went back and forth between the Giants and 49ers but settled on the Giants. I surely hope everyone here is happy after the first game because I sure will be as well.

    GOOD LUCK EVERYONE!!!!!!
    Thank Tebow you didn't listen to me.




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    Re: OK Raven fans I still need your help!!!!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by somedumbguy View Post
    Thank Tebow you didn't listen to me.
    Your analysis was strong and on point!!

    Any advice for the next one?? I am leaning. Maybe you can push me over or straighten me up!!!!

    I was very close to winning the whole thing last week!!! I hurt just like you guys when the Ravens game ended. Sorry!!!!!




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    Re: OK Raven fans I still need your help!!!!!!!

    Flip a coin?

    That's probably works as well as anything. Belechick has lost a couple of games now to the Giants. You know he's going to try something on offense that we haven't seen before. The question is whether that's enough to stop a healthy Giants defense. Eli has been ice under pressure and has a couple of great monster sized targets to throw to. I do see the Giants scoring a lot of points in this one.

    If it was me I'd go Giants but the coin flip works to. Good luck!
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  9. Re: OK Raven fans I still need your help!!!!!!!

    Me personally, I'd be shocked if the Giants don't win this game.
    I think the book on how to slow down the Patriots offense and limit their scoring has been written by the teams with strong defenses this year.
    If the Giants do on defense what the Ravens, Steelers, etc. did previously then I'm not even too sure this will even be close.
    The Giants probably have the best pass rushing defensive line in the NFL right now to help complicate matters for the Patriots.
    The Giants have the far superior running game then the Patriots have.
    I highly doubt Victor Cruz, Hakeem Nicks or Mario Manningham or gonna drop a sure TD pass in the endzone from Eli if it comes down to this, which I doubt, nor do I think the Patriots have the secondary to cover them.
    Certainly if it were me in your shoes (I was there in 2001 when the Ravens won it all and I won) I would take the Giants with no questions asked.
    We're all amateurs like yourself, but you know as well as everybody else does that's not a Patriots fan that the Patriots shouldn't even be playing in this game.

    I hope you win!!
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    I can see why people think the Giants will win. But I have a sinking feeling the Pats will get revenge. Vernon Davis abused the Giants, and I suspect the Pats TEs will go off in this game (assuming Gronkowski isn't really hobbled, which I think will be made clear by middle of next week). The game is in a dome, which I think helps the Pats. The Pats defense (run defense and pass rush) has improved late in the season. I can see the Pats marching slowly, but surely, down the field in small chunks, killing a lot of clock and scoring TDs. Also, though Eli is clutch lately, he is still the more likely QB to have an off day, imo.

    Is there any way you can find out what most of the other people are picking before you have to officially pick? It might help you decide (in terms of managing risk).
    Last edited by Haloti92; 01-27-2012 at 08:50 PM.




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    I think the Gmen will win but more importantly....

    I hope the Pats lose on the last play of the game due to a clearly blown call. Yes I said it
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    Re: OK Raven fans I still need your help!!!!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Haloti92 View Post
    I can see why people think the Giants will win. But I have a sinking feeling the Pats will get revenge. Vernon Davis abused the Giants, and I suspect the Pats TEs will go off in this game (assuming Gronkowski isn't really hobbled, which I think will be made clear by middle of next week). The game is in a dome, which I think helps the Pats. The Pats defense (run defense and pass rush) has improved late in the season. I can see the Pats marching slowly, but surely, down the field in small chunks, killing a lot of clock and scoring TDs. Also, though Eli is clutch lately, he is still the more likely QB to have an off day, imo.

    Is there any way you can find out what most of the other people are picking before you have to officially pick? It might help you decide (in terms of managing risk).
    No, i have to have my pick in 2 hours before the game. Shortly after that, everyone's picks are revealed. 9 of the 12 have taken the largest favorite each week of the playoffs. That would lead me to believe that the Patriots will be the selected more. I am guessing 7 to 5 or maybe 8 to 4.




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    Quote Originally Posted by SteelGirl View Post
    No, i have to have my pick in 2 hours before the game. Shortly after that, everyone's picks are revealed. 9 of the 12 have taken the largest favorite each week of the playoffs. That would lead me to believe that the Patriots will be the selected more. I am guessing 7 to 5 or maybe 8 to 4.
    Well, if it's basically a coinflip in terms of who wins, then maybe pick the Giants since the payoff split would be better (assuming 8-9 of the people will pick the Pats).

    I can easily envision either team winning (and what teh game would look like), but my gut/hunch says the Pats win (unfortunately, because I would much rather NYG win).

    Let us know who you take though.




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    Re: OK Raven fans I still need your help!!!!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Haloti92 View Post
    Well, if it's basically a coinflip in terms of who wins, then maybe pick the Giants since the payoff split would be better (assuming 8-9 of the people will pick the Pats).

    I can easily envision either team winning (and what teh game would look like), but my gut/hunch says the Pats win (unfortunately, because I would much rather NYG win).

    Let us know who you take though.
    I will keep you posted!!!!!




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    Quote Originally Posted by SteelGirl View Post
    I will keep you posted!!!!!
    Cool.

    You also could hedge and lock in some money if you can find a way to bet on the game.

    A reputable bookie (if that isn't an oxymoron) or maybe online or through Vegas, perhaps. Since the Giants are getting points, you could place a bet on the Giants getting the points. You could then pick the Pats in the survival pool. If the Giants win, you don't get anything from pool but you do win money on your separate bet. If the Pats win by more than the spread, you lose whatever you bet but make up for it with the pool money (even if everyone picks the same winner, the split is still good). And...if the Pats win but do not cover the spread (yeah the spread is small but it still could happen, or maybe you 'push' the separate bet), you could win both the bet and the share of the pool.




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