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    Re: "Black Monday" - Who gets fired ... (Merged)



    You can take it for what you like. Polian built that entire team around Peyton Manning. The only WR they had during Manning's tenure with legit deep threat speed was Harrison. Otherwise, all of their WRs had reliable hands and ran great timing routes. Their RBs took care of the football. Their offensive line was quick, to keep speed rushers off of Manning. The defense was built to hold teams to field goals, while Manning put up TDs, leading teams to try and throw with Manning. That would lead to Freeney and Mathis causing problems, hurried throws and turnovers.

    Now that the guy who drafted Manning and built a team around him is gone, it could be a sign that Manning is gone as well. We know how the Irsays work. It would not be beneath them to unceremoniously get rid of Manning.

    The only surprise, upon reflection, is that Polian was let go before Caldwell.

    Is Caldwell officially gone yet?
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    Re: "Black Monday" - Who gets fired ... (Merged)

    Caldwell is gone.

    A new GM is going to want his guy in there, it isn't even a question.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Silver View Post
    I think Irsay is overreacting, of course he team sucks without Manning. Big secret! Sure the Patriots went 11-5 without Brady for a year, but at that time there was more than Brady to the team.
    And I think that's exactly why the Polians are gone.

    Certainly you lose your starting QB (particularly one like Manning) your team is going to be different, but not to the nature that team did for the majority of the year.

    There never seemed to be enough talent else where on the team to pick up some of the slack.
    It's like they put all their eggs in one baskewt and humpty dumpty fell and broke.

    That's why I think the Polians are gone.

    Some of this belongs on the coaching staff as well.
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    The Polian firings is bizarre. The Colts have a huge decision to make with Manning and the big bonus due and with what they will do with Luck (trade for mega picks or keep the pick).

    So you fire the two big heads in your front office?

    Unreal.




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    I don't get the Polian defenders here. That team was dismal talent-wise, and the front office was a disaster five years in a row. I guess we have no way of knowing how many more wins they might've had with Manning over Painter/Orlovsky (obviously some) but many were speculating that this was going to be the year the Colts' brilliant reign over their division headed south anyway, thanks to so many lean years at bringing in new talent.




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    Re: Black Monday

    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenswintitle View Post
    How many coaches will be fired today and who is in line to get the next chance?

    Jax, Miami and KC already fired their coach mid season. Rams fired Spags this morning: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...fired-by-rams/

    Tampa is likely next, how about Indy?

    As an up a coming coordinator, Jay Gruden did a great job this year with Dalton and he has head coach experience in arena league. He'd be a good fit for Tampa.
    Please don't take our Gruden. He is still running on break-in oil. We flat out love the guy.




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    Re: Black Monday

    Quote Originally Posted by CincyCat View Post
    Please don't take our Gruden. He is still running on break-in oil. We flat out love the guy.
    He's done an amazing job in his first NFL stint but he has a lot of experience in other leagues. Something tells me he may get some interest but if he doesn't, Zimmer should. You have to admit he's earned it.
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    Re: Black Monday

    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenswintitle View Post
    He's done an amazing job in his first NFL stint but he has a lot of experience in other leagues. Something tells me he may get some interest but if he doesn't, Zimmer should. You have to admit he's earned it.
    Yes, Zimmer has too. I don't want to lose either one. We will see.




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    Is it just me or is Jimmy starting to look a lot like his old man? Sounds like him too..

    You almost wait for the "Hiccup* and "I'm not moving this ^#$%@#$ team!"

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d...headline_stack




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    Re: "Black Monday" - Who gets fired ... (Merged)

    I wouldn't worry about Jay Gruden getting plucked...not yet anyway. Like our Pagano, both guys have soaring stock, but I think we've seen recently, coordinators who get promoted after one or two good years have fallen a bit flat. With a lot of established names out there, and some developed coordinators too, I think you'll have Gruden for at least another year or so. Zimmer falls into the developed coordinators category.
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    Re: "Black Monday" - Who gets fired ... (Merged)

    [QUOTE=Ravenboy2003;389746]Is it just me or is Jimmy starting to look a lot like his old man? Sounds like him too..

    You almost wait for the "Hiccup* and "I'm not moving this ^#$%@#$ team!"

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d...headline_stack[

    Was thinking the same thing, Jim will want a new deal with the city soon.




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    Why on God's green earth are so many teams after Jeff Fisher? I get Cowher and to some degree the idiot asshole John Gruden but what has Jeff Fisher done to merit so much attention other than that he was at one place a long time with a modicum of success?




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    Re: "Black Monday" - Who gets fired ... (Merged)

    Quote Originally Posted by Ravens75 View Post
    Why on God's green earth are so many teams after Jeff Fisher? I get Cowher and to some degree the idiot asshole John Gruden but what has Jeff Fisher done to merit so much attention other than that he was at one place a long time with a modicum of success?
    I've never liked Fisher. He talks big but rarely delivers. He is a solid coach but in 17 years as a head coach he made the playoffs just 6 times. Is that really who you want running your team?
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    Re: "Blank Monday" - Who gets fired ... (Merged)

    Quote Originally Posted by esmd View Post
    Irsay is a freaking idiot. Bill Polian built that team. They had a lot of talent bedsides Manning; Caldwell is a weak coach and couldn't keep the team together without him. Should they have had a better backup QB? Absolutely. But that's not a fireable offense, IMO. Dungy gone, Polian gone, and Manning soon to follow. Unless he hires a good exec, they're on their way back to being doormats, IMO. If they were smart, they'd trade Manning and some other older vets (Freeney, etc) for as many picks as they can get, take whatever cap hit they're going to take next year, draft Luck, and start over. Polian would've done a nice job of rebuilding, but now...who knows.
    Bill Polian wasn't rebuilding anything. He was semi-retired and left most things to his son Chris. That's the problem. Polian is almost 70. He's not working 80 hours a week to fix this team. His son isn't him. Just looking at the recent talent on this team tells you that.
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