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Re: Raymond Berry to deliver Superbowl Trophy in Indy.
I don't get how you could be mad at Berry. Its a once in a lifetime opportunity.
Not only that, but he has a chance to hand the trophy to either baltimore (where he won 2 titles) or the Pats (who he took to the SB as a head coach). To act like he is dissing the city of baltimore or its history is ridiculous.
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12-30-2011, 03:15 PM #26
Re: Raymond Berry to deliver Superbowl Trophy in Indy.
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12-30-2011, 03:37 PM #27Regular 1st Stringer
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12-30-2011, 03:42 PM #28Veteran Poster
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Re: Raymond Berry to deliver Superbowl Trophy in Indy.
Berry has been a long time traitor standing on the sidelines of INDY games periodically over the years.
It doesn't surprise me one bit that he would keep that going and present the trophy in his adopted home on Indiana.
I mean we all know how much joy those Indy fans will feel when a guy who has no relation or connection to the city represents them on Super Bowl Sunday.
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12-30-2011, 03:47 PM #29Veteran Poster
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Re: Raymond Berry to deliver Superbowl Trophy in Indy.
AFC South blogger has chimed in...
http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/po...present-trophy
by Paul Kuharsky
Point 1) I fell in love with Raymond Berry when I read this excerpt from Mark Bowden’s book on The Greatest Game Ever Played. It’s the root of one of my football tenets: Do not slip.
Point 2) I argue constantly that a team and the league, not the fans and the press, get to decide if a team that’s relocated retains its past. The only team that’s ever left its history behind is the Cleveland Browns.
What do the two have to do with each other?
The NFL announced it will honor Berry as part of the Super Bowl in Indianapolis. He will carry the Lombardi Trophy to the presentation. The connection, of course, is that Berry played for the Colts.
The Baltimore Colts.
I understand the “link,” but as part of a celebration of the host city, there is a complete disconnect. I’d never say Berry isn’t due an honor, but this isn’t the time.
Kudos to Scott McCauley, whose tweet on the topic spurred this post.
"Eric Dickerson should present the #SuperBowl trophy not Raymond Berry. Would Jim Brown present if game was in Baltimore?"
I don’t know about Dickerson. He’s a Ram to a lot of people.
The league is surely reluctant to use a current player.
But the perfect choice would be Jeff Saturday. He won a Super Bowl with the Colts, and he was an instrumental guy as a member of the NFLPA’s executive committee who was a giant influence on getting the CBA in place and saving the season.
Without him, maybe there wouldn't even be a presentation.
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12-31-2011, 01:16 AM #30Pro Bowl Poster
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Re: Raymond Berry to deliver Superbowl Trophy in Indy.
Dear Paul Kuharsky--
"The NFL announced it will honor Berry as part of the Super Bowl in Indianapolis. He will carry the Lombardi Trophy to the presentation. The connection, of course, is that Berry played for the Colts."
Child...PLEASE!
The connection, of course, is that the NFL figures it will net more $$$ this way....
Get real!
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12-31-2011, 01:54 AM #31
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12-31-2011, 04:32 AM #32
Re: Raymond Berry to deliver Superbowl Trophy in Indy.
Unitas and Moore would never have done it and that's all that matters to me. Raymond Berry can do it and doesn't bother me as much.
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12-31-2011, 05:30 AM #34Regular 1st Stringer
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Re: Raymond Berry to deliver Superbowl Trophy in Indy.
Irsay is obviously still living in the past.
Just hope this will hit them in the face when Ray is there to take the lombardi back where it belongs.
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12-31-2011, 04:35 PM #35
Re: Raymond Berry to deliver Superbowl Trophy in Indy.
As i've said in other threads, i'm really trying to let "the hate" go, but for a lot of folks, stuff like this is guaranteed to touch a nerve.
Mr. Berry has attended Indy functions before. I wish he (like most if not all the other Baltimore Colts players) had turned the Irsays down, but i don't blame the guy. I just hope he makes good cake for it. The guy has always been a class act. Along with most of the male population of Baltimore I grew up wanting to "be" him whenever we played sandlot FB.
Not only is he a HOFer but he also coached a cinderalla Pats team to a SB XX appearance, losing to the Bears. To get there, Berry's team became the 1st squad in NFL history to win 3 playoff games on the road. I don't agree with it but i can see why the NFL might push it.
I also hope the anouncers make it clear where he played, and i think they will. In an ironic kind of way it actually reminds people about that part of Baltimore's football history.
If the Baltimore Ravens rise to the occassion and make it to the Big Dance, the good karma for us should reach epic proportions.Twenty years of Cheers.
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12-31-2011, 09:35 PM #36
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Re: Raymond Berry to deliver Superbowl Trophy in Indy.
Is it possible that Berry has fallen on hard times financially and needs the money?
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