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    "it's obvious why the Titans didn't put up a fight to keep McNair."

    Could have fooled me.

    If that was the case, they would have taken the first offer we made and been happy.

    I definitely think arm strength is an issue regarding Mcnair, but the intangibles are not.

    Noi doubt in my mind a younger less experienced QB in that situation, and we would have lost.

    Don't know what it is, but his presence on the field means something to these guys which is an intangible that can't be over looked.

    With that being said, this offense including Mcnair need to step it up a couple notches or these borderline wins will become ass kickings from our opponents.
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    Why is Charlie Fry a "nobody". He showed signs last year that he had the potential to be a good QB. I think we saw that today. He was getting his ass kicked and running for his life and made plays. Give the guy some credit.




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    The reality is that Romeo Crennel and his offensive coordinator should be fined a week's pay for calling that pass play with 3:21 to go in the game (which CMac intercepted). S-T-U-P-I-D.

    Why on earth didn't they just run the ball there? If they get a TD, great (not great for the Ravens, but you know what I mean). If they kick a FG, the game would have probably been over. Baltimore wasn't going to drive the length of the field for a TD, I assume.

    That will go down as a horrendous play call in Cleveland. If you're going to throw the ball, throw a jump ball in the corner...don't throw it across the middle of the field. In the end, though, a pass at that point was totally the wrong thing to do.

    If that would have been Billick-Fassel calling that play (with the same results), people would be lined up at 1 Winning Drive waiting for them to pull into the driveway.

    Next thought: McNair's gonna get his head taken off soon if they don't find someone to block for him.

    And finally: 3-0 is way better than 2-1, especially when Cincy is 3-0 with TWO road wins in tough venues.




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    Re: The realities

    Quote Originally Posted by Mista T View Post
    Outstanding catches by Mason and Calyton masked the low quality of passes thrown in the 4th quarter comeback.

    That is what good receivers do. That is why QBs like Carson Palmer and Peyton Manning are so great; they both have WRs that make them look great. Same for Big Ben.

    I am not saying that McNair was lights out today, but every QB needs WRs that they can get the ball to and hope those guys can make plays. That's what McNair did today. Guaranteed, Boller could not have made those throws and would have buckled under the pressure of that 4th quarter drive. McNair was not great, but he was good enough to get the ball to our playmakers at WR. Clayton and Mason can't make those catches if the QB is not getting the ball to them. That's why they are called PLAYMAKERS.
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    That will go down as a horrendous play call in Cleveland.

    It's Cleveland once you breath the air bad things start to happen. Just ask Marty Shootmyasser or Mike Hasbeen.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Mista T View Post
    The reality: I do not see McNair as an upgrade so far. (I don't put much stock in terms like "intangibles" and "leadership", which sound like apologies). I am hoping he can step it up with upcoming games against a few teams that can score points.

    Sorry but that is complete bulls--t. We are 3-0. No way do we win the game today with Boller at the helm. If you choose not to believe that McNair has given the team confidence, hey, thats your opinion, but your opinion is wrong. McNair's intangibles have made the difference. He's given the D the confidence that they'll have support and he's given the offensive a leader, someone they can rally around.

    I'm not even going to get into the comment of the WRs bailing him out because that is simply scraping the bottom of the barrel. WRs are supposed to make plays. They did today.

    Not saying McNair has been perfect or great by any means, but to say he's "not an upgrade" is just, wow. I can't find a word for it. Ridiculous. Quite frankly I'm sick and tired of people talking like we are 1-2. I'll take 13 more wins JUST LIKE TODAY thank you.
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    Once again I'll ask you about the Jets game two years ago or the Texans game last year...

    Oh wait, I'm trying to have an intelligent football discussion with you. Silly me.
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    Guaranteed, Boller could not have made those throws and would have buckled under the pressure of that 4th quarter drive.
    COUGH COUGH HOUSTON COUGH COUGH COUGH BOLLER TO CLAYTON COUGH COUGH COUGH

    Come on, I get tired of dismissing Boller's same exact situations. Although I knew this honeymoon period with McNair would bring some of it out.

    And if you want to get technical, Boller did it on a 9 man blitz, and got WELL within FG range, where as McNair got only got Stover 52 yards from the posts, and OVERTHREW HIS RECEIVER ON 3RD AND MEDIUM!

    If Stover misses that FG, are we talking about how McNair marched the team downfield, or are we talking about McNair overthrowing Heap on 3rd down to lose the game because Stover was way out of range?

    I'll take 13 more wins JUST LIKE TODAY thank you.
    2K6, we're not getting 13 more wins that way. I respect you man, always. But you are definitely reaching tonight. It's like we've watched two seperate games today. It almost sounds like the defense has so little pride and desire that if Boller was playing they wouldn't have played that way.

    I'm not even going to get into the comment of the WRs bailing him out because that is simply scraping the bottom of the barrel. WRs are supposed to make plays. They did today.
    I almost want to dig up the game thread from the Houston game. I can guarantee you (much like you can guarantee Boller wouldn't have won this game), that many people said exactly the opposite when bashing Boller for having to come back and win that game.

    This is what is frustrating. We're 3-0, yes. But we're acting like this offense was the difference. Shit, if C-Mac only gets a hand on the ball and doesn't pick it off, none of this matters.

    And I'll ask again. If Stover misses that 52 YARD FG, are we talking about how McNair marched the team downfield? I bet not.
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    COUGH COUGH HOUSTON AT HOME COUGH COUGH

    Please. Theres a difference in leading a comeback at home and leading one on the road. Boller did lead one on the road but that was 2 years ago. Boller hasn't won on the road since, so EXCUSE ME if I have my doubts about his ability to lead us back in such a scenario.
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    So Boller has proven he can do it on the road against a much better defense, yet you still continue to bash the guy. Simply amazing.

    Don't bother responding, I won't be able to read a word you say.
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    And we almost didn't today.

    A 52 YARD FIELD GOAL!! You're acting like McNair drove us to the 25 yard line and Stover had some chip shot to put the game away. He didn't.

    Again, I'll ask the question, because someone needs to answer it. Stover misses that 52 YARD FG, are we talking about how McNair marched the team downfield? Or are we talking about how McNair couldn't get us into FG range and wildy overthrew Heap on 3rd down?

    Stover won this game on his leg. 52 yards I say again.


    I'll ask a second question. Does this inspire anyone that this offense will be able to keep up with the Bengals? Are you even inspired that we're going to keep up with the Chargers?




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    Re: The realities

    We are probably talking about how McNair couldn't get us into FG range. Hell, just listen to the radio. You'd think we lost the game anyway.

    As far as the WR comment about going back to that Houston game, you are probably right, but I've never been that guy. I've been critical of Boller but never critical just to be critical.
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    I have pretty much come to the conclusion that certain posters (who shall remain namless) will never be happy with McNair's play due to the size of his contract, and thier infatuation with Kyle Boller. I have pretty much gotten used to it.

    Just ignore those guys, no matter how good of a record this team has, some Ravens fans will still complain about everything, they are so used to doing it, that no matter what happens they will still do it.

    I am a Ravens fan who is happy with a win, until these problems cause this team to lose, I will not be complaining.

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    Re: The realities

    Boller's name has come up several times in several threads today. What I want to know is why?

    Steve McNair is a nice guy.
    Steve McNair (usually) loks great in the pocket, very smooth.
    The team seems to have a lot of confidence in Steve.
    Steve McNair is 3-0 with the Ravens.
    Steve is good in the clutch...so far at least.

    Steve McNair has a rag arm.
    Steve isn't terribly accurate at any range.
    Steve McNair's fragility is scary.

    Steve hasn't beat a quality team yet. (the Browns looked semi-respectable today, but they'll seek their level by season's end - at the bottom.)

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    There, see, not once was Kyle Boller's name mentioned. Let's keep it that way until Kyle is taking snaps in a game once more and the haters can refill their fangs with venom.
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    Nice try Art, but those "fans" followed us over here. There is an easy way to deal with them though.
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