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12-15-2011, 05:15 PM #49
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12-15-2011, 05:20 PM #50
Re: Ravens 4th Most Likely Team to Get Peyton if Indy Chooses Luck
Been thinking that all along. The Goober is a gamer and would be out there if he could be (even in this lost season for Indy). But he's not so game that he'd risk permanent incapacitation, even in a Super Bowl run. That they've been so cautious and closed-mouth suggests the injury is a bad one, If doctors tell him "Peyton, we have no idea if you'd walk away from another helmet to helmet hit," (cue James Harrison...) then he's done. What does he have left to prove in the game? And he's an intelligent, charismatic guy w/ tons of post football options: uber spokesperson, ensemble comedy film career, Senator from Tennessee or Indiana, etc., etc.
As for OP's topic, we don't need no Goobers. Too much $, too much Star Power, too many miles on him. I just don't see him "playing like a Raven."
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12-15-2011, 05:21 PM #51
Re: Ravens 4th Most Likely Team to Get Peyton if Indy Chooses Luck
What's maddening to me and what makes hundreds of threads appear on Ravens boards is that he says that the Falcons won't get Manning because they have a franchise QB, but the Ravens should because Flacco is mediocre.
Seriously take a good hard look at the Flacco and Ryan numbers. They're almost the same guy.If life hands you a lemon... throw it at somebody!!
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12-15-2011, 05:23 PM #52Veteran Poster
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Re: Ravens 4th Most Likely Team to Get Peyton if Indy Chooses Luck
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12-15-2011, 05:32 PM #53Regular 1st Stringer
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Re: Ravens 4th Most Likely Team to Get Peyton if Indy Chooses Luck
You do know that the Colts won the superbowl when Payton Manning was playing horrible and trying to give games away to the Chiefs, Ravens, and Patriots with his interceptions.
It is not a proven fact that just because the Ravens have Manning, that all of a sudden, the team is winning the superbowl.
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12-15-2011, 05:34 PM #54Regular 1st Stringer
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Re: Ravens 4th Most Likely Team to Get Peyton if Indy Chooses Luck
First of all, there is no such animal as "a healthy Manning" any longer. Neck injuries are almost always for life- and debilitating. He might possibly get back out on the field- and he may possibly be OK- but he will never be what he once was- and he will always be one hit away from jarring his vertebrae and body into forced retirement- there is no way i would take that gamble based on Joe's proven record of winning.
If you could guarantee 1 or 2 Superbowls, I'd trade Joe for that- but Peyton's record in the playoffs suggests otherwise.
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12-15-2011, 05:44 PM #55Steve Flacco, Apparently
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It's a foolish argument because it assumes that replacing Joe Flacco with an out of football for a year and brittle Peyton Manning would somehow guarantee a Superbowl. I have a feeling that Manning would look significantly less super playing against AFC North
Let's face it, we already expect a Superbowl with Joe behind center. Will a broken down Manning play so much better than an up and coming Joe Flacco as to justify mortgaging our future on him?
The Vikings tried this with Farve and we saw how that worked out.
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12-15-2011, 05:52 PM #56Veteran Poster
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Re: Ravens 4th Most Likely Team to Get Peyton if Indy Chooses Luck
"Please take with you this final sword, The Excellector. I am praying that your journey will be guided by the light", Leon Shore
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12-15-2011, 06:49 PM #58
Re: Peyton Manning 2012 prediction - and ESPN speculation re Ravens (merged threads)
The Colts wouldn't even put Manning on IR this season. In doing so, they wasted a roster spot all year. I simply don't see Irsay cutting the most iconic figure in the history of the Indianapolis Colts. Sure, most good teams know when to part with these type of players. Again, I just don't see it happening in this case.
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12-15-2011, 06:53 PM #59Regular 1st Stringer
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Re: Peyton Manning 2012 prediction - and ESPN speculation re Ravens (merged threads)
Manning won't leave Indy, he'll stay either as a QB or as a mentor to Luck. He's too valuable to trade/release, particularly given the cap hit they would take. Even if a team was willing to take a chance on his neck and offer him a contract I doubt Manning would take it, he operates with full control of an offense and wouldn't want to go through getting the same level of understanding with Holmes/Burress/LT. He will never play for another team.
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12-15-2011, 06:55 PM #60Veteran Poster
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Re: Ravens 4th Most Likely Team to Get Peyton if Indy Chooses Luck
Manning has a much better postseason QB rating (88.4) than Flacco (61.6). I am pretty sure he also has a better postseason QB rating than Brady (85.7), if you can believe it. Elway has a career postseason rating of 79, Aikman 88.3, Montana 95, for reference.
One can debate that a neck-injured old Manning would not give a team a better chance to win any random playoff game than a young improving Flacco, but let's stop with the insinuation that the established record/stats indicate this is likely, let alone given.Last edited by Haloti92; 12-15-2011 at 07:03 PM.
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