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    Does Chris McCalister make the HOF?



    What do you think?

    Hes got at least 1 Superbowl ring(possibly 2, if someone could confirm whether or not he received a ring from the Saints), 26 Career INTs and 5 Career Def TD's.

    2 All pros, 3 pro bowls.




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    Re: Does Chris McCalister make the HOF?

    Defensive backs get in because of interceptions. McAlister wasn't that kind of player. He was great but he doesn't have the go to number at his position to make the Hall of Fame. Just compare McAlister to someone from around the same time like Rod Woodson and you'll see a huge difference is INT numbers.
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    I agree GOTA. He just never had the same juice as corners like Champ Bailey or Asamugha. We appreciated him, but he was never a big focal point in national discussion. Some of that may be simply because he was overshadowed by Ray and Ed, too.




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    Re: Does Chris McCalister make the HOF?

    McAlister was usually a top 5 or even top 3 CB on many when he played but he was never that top player at his position. The 2 guys I do see getting in from this same era are Champ Bailey and Charles Woodson. Both of those guys where just better than McAlister.
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    Re: Does Chris McCalister make the HOF?

    Quote Originally Posted by GOTA View Post
    McAlister was usually a top 5 or even top 3 CB on many when he played but he was never that top player at his position. The 2 guys I do see getting in from this same era are Champ Bailey and Charles Woodson. Both of those guys where just better than McAlister.
    Agreed.

    Also, you have to consider some of the off-field stuff that happened with CMAC. He was a great player, but he wasn't so great that some of those off-field incidents won't impact consideration and status.
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    Re: Does Chris McCalister make the HOF?

    Not a shot in hell.




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    No chance. Not even debatable IMO.
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    Re: Does Chris McCalister make the HOF?

    ROH YES, HOF NO... Bc




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    Re: Does Chris McCalister make the HOF?

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    No chance. Not even debatable IMO.
    In his career, in how many seasons was he the best at his position?

    Right. Case closed.
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    Re: Does Chris McCalister make the HOF?

    HE needed 2 to 3 more seasons like he had in 06. I always thought he was on track (despite the off the filed crap) but he obviously fell off.




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    Re: Does Chris McCalister make the HOF?

    Quote Originally Posted by festivus View Post
    In his career, in how many seasons was he the best at his position?

    Right. Case closed.
    2003 and 2006 he was hands down the best CB in football.

    In 2003, he totally took over the 2nd half of the season. He would cover the opposing team's #1 WR and totally remove them from the game. He had a stretch I believe where he had seven straight games of holding opposing teams' #1 WR below 50 receiving yards and TD-less. Later that stretch, The Ravens blew out SF 44-3 I believe. TO had an 1100 yard season that year. Against CMAC, he had 3 catches for 23 yards. The very next week, Chad Johnson, in the midst of a career season that ultimately saw him catch for 1350 yards, had 2 catches for 15 yards. That was his pattern all year. Of course, Ray won DPOY but I think the Ravens would have been worse off that year without CMAC than Lewis.




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    Re: Does Chris McCalister make the HOF?

    Quote Originally Posted by NCRAVEN View Post
    HE needed 2 to 3 more seasons like he had in 06. I always thought he was on track (despite the off the filed crap) but he obviously fell off.
    This. McAlister had a pretty certain HOF arc through 2006. However, starting with his age 30 season (2007), he totally disappeared as productive CB. He was pretty bad in 2007 and contributed zilcho in 2008. Sadly, the last memories of McAlister in a Raven uniform were of him getting torched by Manning and Co in Week 5 of the 08 season.

    His lack of productivity from age 30 on kills his HOF career, but he certainly was a HOF caliber player in terms of his value in his prime.

    If you look at all the recent CBs in the HOF presently...guys like Deion, Woodson, Mel Blount, Willie Brown, Mike Haynes....they were all highly productive players into their mid-30s. That's where C-Mac falls short.

    Also, if Aeneas Williams (a no-brainer Hall of Famer) is now entering his 4th ballot without getting in, it means Cmac really won't ever have a shot. CB is a drastically under-represented position in Canton.




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    Quote Originally Posted by GOTA View Post
    The 2 guys I do see getting in from this same era are Champ Bailey and Charles Woodson.
    In there respective primes, the ONLY thing that Woodson was better at than McAlister was surrendering long TD passes.

    Woodson made a few more splash plays, but that was merely because he got beat so often that teams threw his way far more than they dared throw at C-Mac.

    In their primes, which overlapped (Woodson entered the league in 98. McAlister in 99), McAlister was the better player. He made the big plays here and there, all while surrendering far fewer completions, receiving yards, and TDs than Woodson. Opposing QBs, from 2000-2006, often gave up on the notion of throwing anywhere in CMAC's direction, which is why his name wasn't called on the highlights as often as Woodson's. Woodson would get beat for 9 catches, 130 yards, and a TD, but would make one huge splash play that made all the Sports Center reels. Meanwhile, CMac would hold his opposing #1 to 4 catches for 46 yards and get no fanfare.

    Make no mistake, though, that NFL executives--while pouring over game film--- knew who was the better CB. Up until 2007, there was zero chance that the Ravens--or any NFL front office-- would have traded McAlister even up for Woodson. In fact, you can make an argument that McAlister was the superior CB to Woodson for every year from 2000-06. That's seven straight years during their primes when CMac outshone Woodson.

    Woodson's HOF value has soared based on his (undeserved) DPOY award in 2009 and the four straight Pro Bowls from 08-11. What people conveniently forget that he went from 2001-07 without getting a single Pro Bowl invitation. By the end of 2005, it looked like his career was all but over....the resurgence he has had recently definitely came out of nowhere. However, his resurrection of his career has come in a different form than McAlister's. Unlike CMAC, Woodson has never been a shutdown corner. He's been a gambler who has surrendered far more big plays than an elite CB ever should. Cmac made those big plays from time to time, without subjecting his team to the negatives associated with Woodson's style of play.

    Charles Woodson might have had the better career, but he was never as dominant a CB as CMAC was during the first half of the 2000-2010 decade.




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    Re: Does Chris McCalister make the HOF?

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    No chance. Not even debatable IMO.
    Not even gonna waste any time typing, he isn't even in the conversation.




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    Re: Does Chris McCalister make the HOF?

    Quote Originally Posted by BcRaven View Post
    ROH YES, HOF NO... Bc
    Agreed. To me, CMAC is in the same category as Peter Boulware. A great player, definately in the ROH, but did not have the career longevity to be seriously considered for the HOF.




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