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    Re: James Harrison



    Quote Originally Posted by lobachevsky View Post
    The attempted murder part, I'll give you. (Hey, if I can't wax hyperbolic about the Tar&Urine, what good is fandom?)

    But assault & battery? Understatement, if anything. Watch the replay a few times & tell me that thug didn't launch his helmet straight at McCoy's head with the intention of knocking him out of the game via injury, if not paralyzing him for life.

    Harrison is an idiot who compensates for his stupidity with viciousness. IOW, the quintessential Stealer, & the perfect bookend for The Rapist Drama Queen.
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    Re: James Harrison

    Quote Originally Posted by lobachevsky View Post
    The attempted murder part, I'll give you. (Hey, if I can't wax hyperbolic about the Tar&Urine, what good is fandom?)
    True .... But ...

    Quote Originally Posted by lobachevsky View Post
    But assault & battery? Understatement, if anything. Watch the replay a few times & tell me that thug didn't launch his helmet straight at McCoy's head with the intention of knocking him out of the game via injury, if not paralyzing him for life.
    Last night's hit does not even sniff the level of mens rea needed for a legal definition of assault & battery. Cheap shot? Yes. But to call it battery on the level of the legal definition ala Todd Bertuzzi, not even close.
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    Re: James Harrison

    He's doing his job and if Tomlin wanted his actions to change he would speak up.

    They want him to send a mesaage and potentially knock the opposing QB out of the game and they'll deal with the fines. Hey it works whether anyone likes it or not.
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  4. #34

    Re: James Harrison

    Quote Originally Posted by KidSampson View Post
    Dude spears on about 50% of his tackles. He has shown no interest in ever doing it differently. If the NFL actually had any interest in safety, other than protecting franchise QBs, he would have been suspended several times already.
    Exactly.

    He tried to spear Ray Rice when Rice was down for a good 2 seconds. If he had caught Ray where he wanted (ribs), Ray would've been out for several games.

    At some point a fine isn't enough, he needs to be suspended.

    The same way the league is trying to send Suh a message that this is his last chance then the same thing needs to happen to Harrison.

    What's so sad is that James is an excellent player that doesn't need to do this. Guys like Sizzle, DeMarcus Ware and even his own teammate Lamar Woodley play lights out without all the cheap shots. As James career winds down, he is going to take shots on his knees and be brutalized much the same way his celebrated teammate Hines Ward is enduring now. Some of the shots Hines has taken this year are payback for being a dirty player for years. At the rate its going Hines is going to be carted out on a stretcher to end his career.




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    Re: James Harrison

    Quote Originally Posted by willden View Post
    I don't think it was very bad really. McCoy was scrambling towards him and if McCoy hadn't ducked his own head, there wouldn't have been helmet to helmet contact. You guys are all forgetting the defenseless part of the equation. Then again, the league is a pansy league now. The hit almost backfired though bringing in Wallace.

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  6. #36

    Re: James Harrison

    Fines have no effect on any of these guys because it's just a drop in the bucket to them. Make them miss a game or two and their game checks and maybe they will start to get it.




  7. #37

    Re: James Harrison

    Don't think he gets suspended. King makes a decent point:

    I've watched the replay maybe 10 times now. Colt McCoy leaves the pocket, runs to his left, tucks the ball under his right arm, and a step or step-and-a-half before making contact with Harrison, pulls the ball out and quickly flips it to Montario Hardesty. Harrison hits McCoy helmet-to-helmet right in McCoy's facemask, and McCoy falls to the turf. Harrison gets flagged for roughing the passer.

    Here's where the debate comes in, and why I believe it will be hard for the NFL to suspend Harrison: If McCoy was viewed as a runner -- which he surely would be while having the ball tucked under his arm, with no intention of throwing it -- then once he is out of the pocket, he is treated like a running back, not a quarterback. And a runner can be hit helmet-to-helmet without penalty.

    But if a quarterback leaves the pocket with the intention still to pass, he loses some protection from the rules of being in the pocket. He can be hit low, and the one-step rule about hitting a quarterback after the release of the ball goes away.

    After the game, Harrison told reporters: "From what I understand, once the quarterback leaves the pocket, he's considered a runner.''

    Not exactly. If he leaves the pocket and looks to be intending to throw, he can't be hit helmet-to-helmet. If he leaves the pocket and appears to be a runner, he can be hit helmet-to-helmet.

    It'll be a close call for discipline czars Ray Anderson and Merton Hanks to decide next week. And Harrison should have aimed lower anyway. But I don't know how they look at the replay and say McCoy isn't a runner when he has the ball tucked under his right arm. And is running.
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    I posted something similar earlier. McCoy had left the pocket and was a threat to run. He will get a fine for leading with the helmet but no suspension warranted
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  9. #39

    Re: James Harrison

    If it were most players, I'd give them the benefit of the doubt. Given Harrison's history... I suspend and fine. I know for certain the NFL won't suspend him, because they're in a playoff chase and losing Harrison while also having a gimpy Woodley would be a significant loss.




  10. #40

    Re: James Harrison

    Now that I think about it, he's definitely getting suspended. I'm sure Goddell has an axe to grind over Harrison's comments over the summer during the lockout. Goddell couldn't do anything at the time and now is his chance. I bet he's actually happy he has the opportunity now.




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    Re: James Harrison

    He didn't have to hit him high, but chose to. He needs to be suspended. There is a history. He needs to stop leading with the crown of his freaking helmet, him and Ryan Clark, now that I have thought about it.
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  12. #42

    Re: James Harrison

    Here's an ESPN article on the subject. It looks like we'll find out tomorrow.

    I, for one, am very interested in the outcome. Not only does this influence the SF game, but I plan on taking the results of the decision as a barometer for how seriously the league takes its "player safety" mantra. Obviously fines have little effect on his behavior:
    • For all the numerous fines he received last year, far more than any other player, they amount to 3% of his salary.
    • Because of his notoriety, he was brought in for that infamous Men's Journal interview (maybe recoup the fines on that?)
    • He's establishing a hard-hitting reputation for a defense and a team that pays him as such


    If he's not suspended, I'm not sure I can take the league's mission seriously.




  13. #43

    Re: James Harrison

    I think he should be suspended, so he can possibly get the message. The play involving Harrison is a little tricky because McCoy looked to become a runner;but, Harrison made the decision to use the crown of his helmet. When you watch the replay, Harrison at the last second lowers his head and delivers the hit with the crown of his helmet.




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    To my knowledge they have never suspended a player due to an in game hit. He didn't throw a punch, kick, or taunt. I don't think the league will cross that line but if they do... Here we go
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    Re: James Harrison

    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenswintitle View Post
    To my knowledge they have never suspended a player due to an in game hit. He didn't throw a punch, kick, or taunt. I don't think the league will cross that line but if they do... Here we go
    I think Rodney Harrison was suspended one game for a helmet-to-helmet hit; on Jerry Rice, if I recall correctly.




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