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    Re: Hensley loves him some Steelers.



    Quote Originally Posted by PeterB58 View Post
    Well, I am not sure I would characterize the Ravens as "complete" given that they've shown that they can be beaten by some pretty inferior teams.

    I think all 4 teams vying for the top slot in the AFC have strengths and weaknesses, and that for the most part they are evenly matched (save for the QB-less Texans). For the Ravens, it may be that their biggest weakness is themselves?

    I just thought Hemsley's article anointing the Steelers was a bit silly; he can certainly think it is true...and in the end it may turn out to be true...but imo there is very little to demonstrate to this point that it is true. And his justification to base his opinion on one game where the Bengals, who are decent this year no doubt, self-destructed as much as they were beaten by the Steelers just seems like he is putting way too much stock into one game, and discounting many others.

    Guess we'll find out? Should make for a very exciting end-of-season and playoffs.
    It will be a great finish. I said the Ravens are more complete because they have a strong ground game, excellent defense, and a good passing game.

    Pittsburgh is not as strong on the ground and NE is weaker on defense. Houston is a puzzle given the quarterback situation but they have the ground game and defense.

    Three of the teams have been the number one defense at one time or another.

    Freak weather or injury is an intangible no one can factor in at this time of year.




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    Re: Hensley loves him some Steelers.

    IMO all three defenses are good enough to carry the team through the playoffs. But right now I'd probably rank those three:

    Defensively:
    Ravens Steelers Texans

    Passing games?
    The Steelers are probably only behind the Packers and Saints as far as deadly passing attacks go. They are certianly not beating around the bush when it comes to leaning on Ben's arm. Flacco is hit or miss, and has been able enough when tasked to put the team on his back. The Texans are in a little pickle with all the injuries. Right now I'd rank them:

    Passing Offense:
    Steelers, Ravens, Texans

    Rushing wise, the Texans are huge up front and nasty. They have run on just about everyone with surprising ease. Despite the QB going down, they are good enough here to keep winning into the playoffs. Teams have loaded up to stop Foster and he has had somewhat less yards in recent weeks, but continues to control posession and not cough it up. The ravens are a different animal. Thankfully, Cam seems to be done tinkering with the offense and has gone back to (wisely) using the run primarily to control clock and set up the occasional big passing play. And the rushing game seems to get better as the game wears on and the opponent is worn down. When Rice is fed the ball, he AND flacco are much more dangerous as a whole. The steelers on the other hand seem to be using the pass to set up the run. This doesn't usually work quite as well as you tend to give your opponenet more opportunities for posessions and puts more stress on a defense to make one more stop. But given that everyone is dropping in coverage to stop ben anyway, it's proven pretty effective. Mendenhall's stats have been unspectacular but his runs have come at quite opportune times and served their purpose of pounding it into the endzone or killing the clock at the end of the game. I'd rank the rushing offenses:

    Texans, Ravens, Steelers

    Ravens, Steelers and Texans are all very solid teams and appear to be headed for another showdown in the postseason. Who wins those matchups is anyone's guess.

    I'm obviously leaning toward the Ravens b'c of the previous season meetings and the defensive edge but I really think the home team, whoever it is, will have the edge if these teams meet up again.




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    Re: Hensley loves him some Steelers.

    Who? The only time I watch ESPN analysts is when I am in the gym with wearing headphones. NFLNetwork, SiriusNFL, and the web can give some great insight and info.
    World Domination 3 Points at a Time!




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    Quote Originally Posted by chicagoravensfan View Post
    I despise the way it's taken as gospel that the Steelers offense is better than the Ravens. The Ravens have scored 28 more points than the Steelers on the year and the Steelers average about 22.5 more yards per game of offense. BFD. Yes Roethlisberger is amazing at making plays out of nothing but I wouldn't say it's so clear cut that their offense is that much better.
    Yeah, well the ravens defense has scored 28 points this year




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    Re: Hensley loves him some Steelers.

    Quote Originally Posted by landspeed View Post
    Yeah, well the ravens defense has scored 28 points this year
    So? What is your point? That ALL f the Ravens points haven't been scored by the offense? Tell me any any team in the league where this is NOT true?




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    Re: Hensley loves him some Steelers.

    But, but, but .... Hensley is in the tank for the Steelers now ....

    http://espn.go.com/blog/afcnorth/pos...-isnt-learning

    Umm, no.
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  8. #23

    Re: Hensley loves him some Steelers.

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    But, but, but .... Hensley is in the tank for the Steelers now ....

    http://espn.go.com/blog/afcnorth/pos...-isnt-learning

    Umm, no.
    I don't think these are exclusive. You can be in the tank for the Steelers and still think James Harrison is an idiot...

    I'm not sure if Hensley is "in the tank" for the Steelers, but I have read his articles regularly since he took over the AFCN blog. He heaps a lot of praise on the Steelers and very little criticism. Reverse that for the Ravens.




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    Where was all this supposed depth during the browns game? They only scored 7 fucking points for almost an hour. It wasn't until the final minutes they managed another 7 off of the int against the worst team against the run. Mendenhall didn't even have as many yards on the ground as Ricky Williams did. Almost half of Browns yards came on the final TD for 79 yards.




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    Re: Hensley loves him some Steelers.

    Quote Originally Posted by DkBlue View Post
    There is some outrage in the replies.

    As far as his statement, I think the Ravens are the most complete team in the AFC right now. I think the Steelers receiving corps has a slight edge.
    When playing well, I agree the Ravens are the most complete team in the AFC right now, perhaps even in the NFL. Green Bay's defensive prowess is underrated, imo, but we still have a better running game and a better defense than they do. You can focus on one part of Green Bay (Rodgers) and hope to win if you stop it or slow it down. That's not true of the Ravens when they are playing well.

    The article in the OP was written in the wake of Pittsburgh's dismantling of Cinncinnati, and last impressions are the ones that dominate in sportswriting. If the Ravens go on a tear and win out convincingly, we could even vault the Packers into the top spot in the eyes of most sportswriters, especially if they stumble or squeak by in their remaining contests.

    I agree, too, that the Steelers' receiving corps is slightly better than the Ravens right now, or at least that their passing game is slightly better (to include the QB in the equation). Brown, Wallace, and Sanders are young, but they've more experience than three-fifths of our wide-outs, and Roethlisberger has developed the kind of relationship with them that a team needs to have an effective and consistent passing game. We've seen flashes, especially with Smith, but not the consistency. Hopefully Flacco and Evans have been getting in synch, because that will negate that advantage for the Steelers considerably.

    Overall, I would give the nod to the Steelers as being better offensively. I'd take Rice over Mendenhall any day of the week (and especially on Sundays), but Redman is a more effective change-of-pace and power back than Williams, IMO. Heath Miller is better (as in, more experienced) than our TE duo, at least as far as we're talking one game this year. Their O-line isn't as good, but Roethlisberger negates that somewhat, and when it comes to Flacco-or-Roethlisberger, I'd still have to give the edge to Big Ben until Flacco actually does put together a solid game against a very good team in the playoffs.

    However, even with all that, the Ravens were built with a focus on beating the Steelers. It's how you match up against the team you're playing, not how you stack up versus the rest of the NFL. Who is better overall doesn't mean much on gameday. Who is better on gameday is what matters, and the Ravens did sweep the Steelers. Our wide-outs don't play their receivers. Our TE's don't play Miller. Rice and Mendenhall won't butt helmets during the game, and neither will Williams and Redman. Their offense might be slightly better, but I think we're the better team, especially when it comes to playing them. We've shown it twice this year. I'm looking forward to making it a three-game sweep.




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