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Thread: New black quarterbacks club
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06-21-2007, 08:43 PM #25
Re: New black quarterbacks club
"Darn...I don't smkoke and I am quite a few years away from fifty"
Welllllll . . . . how about you don't have to smoke and don't have to be over fifty. You still have to drink and have an attitude. I wouldn't want to exclude anyone :DScrew 'em all
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06-21-2007, 09:40 PM #26
Re: New black quarterbacks club
How about a "Hate Whitey" club?
Living in Houston, Tx....still living, eating, breathing the Ravens
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06-21-2007, 10:28 PM #27
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Ooo, ooo, ooo, (raising hand and shuffling weight from one leg to the other) I qualify on all counts, especially atitude. Can I join too?
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06-24-2007, 12:27 AM #28
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I agree with you to an extent, and I am familiar with the condition of the Baltimore City public school system, but I think the educational problems with inner city minorities are largely problems that stem from home, and result from certain cultural influences. I do understand, however, that a lot of these kids aren't really given much of a chance and the problems that plague these inner-city schools cannot be articulated in a single post.
However, it ulitmately comes down to personal responsibility. No one is forcing these kids out of school. Because of certain entitlement programs, AA, social promotion, etc., higher education (in many instances) has lowered it's standards. There are other reasons for the decline in the quality of education that many of these institutions offer, but I think that this movement to push underqualified minority candidates (that would be better off AT LEAST starting off at a community college level) to the college level is a big mistake. It not only hurts them, but it's at the expense of others.
Many have taken the point of view that public and higher education (especially higher) should be a guaranteed right and should be made available to ALL people. Now, because of this attitude, obtaining a college degree has become less significant, many useless departments have been created, and college has become a place of vacation for MANY students.
It's not a stretch at all to say that minorities have college education more readily available to them. Graduate from high school, and you're essentially set as a minority. That's what affirmative action has created. Many colleges and universities have a quota to fill; admission requirements are lowered in order to accomodate minority candidates (usually regardless of their personal financial situation).
This is really beside the point. I completely agree with you on the "Black QB's Club" situation; I really don't think there is a need to create such a group.
In my mind, racial divides (as I said earlier) only become more defined when people are constantly (or making a point to) recognizing the differences in one another. It's pointless and trivial. Morgan Freeman actually made some great points awhile back about black history month and the ongoing racial discussions in this country. He made the point that black history is American history, and that it shouldn't be relegated to one month of the year. He also discussed that racism will cease as soon as people stop talking about it.
I don't mean to turn this into a political discussion, I'm simply defending my stance on the education issue.
Bottom line: a black QB's club is stupid.
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06-26-2007, 02:25 AM #29Pro Bowl Poster
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Best response ever! My respect for you has grown even more. Whites don't have to assemble, because (duh) they are the majority in this country.....for now. Minority groups are formed for self-empowerment. They are not trying to hide behind masks and white robes, to kill a group of people, like a certain cowardly group used many years ago.
What McNair and the other African American QBs are doing is assembling a group for the purpose of encouraging other minorities to pursue a career as a QB in the NFL. For years, whites have stated that African Americans were not smart enough to man the QB position. That stereotype was proven wrong.
As festivus stated, if you want to see whites assemble, just turn on ABC, CBS, FOX and NBC. Turn on any beauty pagent. Hell, watch "Friends." I watch Friends and there is not a speck of "Black" on that show.It's a new season! It's a new day!
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06-26-2007, 02:38 AM #30Pro Bowl Poster
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Blah, Blah, Blah. It is funny how you will write a long (winded) essay-ish thread -saying the same thing- everytime an issue of race comes up. You are predictable and typical. That further reveals your real feelings on race matters.
Of course you would see no need for a Black QBs Club. Of course, you see the club as "stupid." Newsflash: Who cares what you think!?! You are not going to stop it from happening.It's a new season! It's a new day!
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06-26-2007, 02:56 AM #31Pro Bowl Poster
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Wow, talk about contradicting yourself. You said that folks should stop making race an issue, yet you state that because whites "are the MAJORITY in this country" they should get some special privilege over others. You also, have attacked minority groups all throughout this post, yet "folks should stop making race an issue."
1. You think that "judging people based on their race is a horrible thing." Well, son, you have done a horrible thing. The lack of a strong family structure and moral fabric is not just prevalent within minority families as you have stated...in ignorant fashion. Last I checked, there are many broken white families out there with a lack of moral fiber.
2. A Black QBs Group is not going impact race relations in America any more or less than it has already been impacted. It's a football group.
Bottomline, You are F.O.S. and living in a glasshouse.Last edited by PurpleRulz; 06-26-2007 at 03:01 AM.
It's a new season! It's a new day!
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06-26-2007, 08:36 AM #32
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PR,
God bless you.
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06-26-2007, 09:45 AM #33
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06-26-2007, 11:37 AM #34
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"You also, have attacked minority groups all throughout this post..."
I must have missed those. What "attacks"? Unledd you mean where he said people have to be accountable. I guess some individuals might construe a suggestion to be responsible and be civilized as an attack.ENFORCE THE 1ST AMENDMENT WITH THE SECOND, NEVER DISARM
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06-26-2007, 01:23 PM #35
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Worst response EVER. How do Black's NEED this club? They are already more then DOUBLY represented as NFL QB's. What I mean, is that a race that makes up 12.1% of the US popualtion, represents 25% of all starting NFL QB's. How is that NOT an equal shot? Becuase the rest of the NFL is 90/10?
By your line of thinking, the white football players should start a club, and get together with owners to encourage "equality". There would be lawsuits everywhere, and the level of play would drop. The best people are on the field, and they got there by being the best. That is how it should always be.
I can't for the life of me understand why Blacks continue to seperate themselves after their forefathers spent so much time, effort, and BLOOD to get your equality. EQUALITY is EQUALITY, not special treatment. Next thing you know the blacks will attemtp to force the coutnry to have 33% white senators, 33% illegal hispanis and 33% blacks, cause well there are really three ethnic groups in htis country, so they might as well get equal representation.... IT DON"T WORK THAT WAY. Stop spitting on MLK's grave....
So answer me, why do little balck kids need a BLACK QB's club to be able to play QB? They are already way over-represented by population? It seems to me that they have PLENTY of opportunities, or else they would still be under-represented.
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06-26-2007, 01:25 PM #36
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