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    New black quarterbacks club



    Ravens' quarterback Steve McNair and a network of former and current NFL QBs including Vince Young (Titans) and Jason Campbell (Redskins), have joined forces to announce the formation of The Black Quarterback Club (BQC). "

    I predict this announcement will be met by most people with a reaction that will be somewhere between "That's nice" and a shrug.

    Some may take this as an open invitation to form other clubs populated by non-black quarterbacks. Somehow i suspect that one will trigger reactions that are a bit less lukewarm. What do YOU think?

    http://www.blackathlete.net/artman/p...le_02880.shtml
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    Re: New black quarterbacks club

    Let the white man do something like that in today's age and watch what happens. This is NOT meant to be a racist statement by any means, just a society-ingrained opinion. Just to see what it looks like, let's see the other side of that token. Brett Favre, Kyle Boller, and Brady Quinn announce the formation of the White Quarterback's Club. Look's funny, doesn't it.

    Black, white, brown, yellow, pink, red, or blue. This should be totally irrelevant.

    What is the point of having ANY organization, club, business or whatever for just one color/race of people. Jeez, when will people of ALL colors/races open their eyes to what is still happening.

    Let there be just two races, the human race and the race to the Super Bowl!

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    Re: New black quarterbacks club

    I think the problem here is that there's a stereotype that says that black players couldn't play QB.


    By making this black QB's club, to some extent its recognizing that and trying to actively combat it in some way.


    Instead of a black QBs club, why not just do something more low key? Or make it a secret society that i'm not aware of?


    As it is it just seems to recognize a difference between black and white QBs. I'd rather see them just naturally show solidarity like they had been and let their play speak for itself on the field




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    Re: New black quarterbacks club

    We are never going to progress in this society until we stop having groups that segregate based on race whether it is black or white. Nothing good can come out of this group.




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    Re: New black quarterbacks club

    No reason why members of a historically oppressed minority shouldn't have a club of like minded professionals. It's perfectly commonplace in other lines of work.

    Art, you're exactly right. "That's nice," and a shrug.
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    Re: New black quarterbacks club

    This wouldn't be a club of "like minded professionals". It's a club of "like skin color professionals".

    If you are tolerant of the United Negro College Fund, Black Entertainment Television, Miss Black America - you shouldn't have a problem with a Black QB Club either.




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    Re: New black quarterbacks club

    Why shouldn't I be tolerant of the United Negro College Fund, Black Entertainment Television, or Miss Black America?

    White students are overwhelmingly represented at colleges, white characters are overwhelmingly represented on tv, and white contestants are (forgive me guessing here, haven't seen many) well represented in beauty pageants. I don't feel like I'm losing anything because of the existence of institutions serving minority populations.

    Why shouldn't I be tolerant of minority organizations of attorneys, or accountants, or engineers? It doesn't bother *me*. I'm just a regular white guy, and regular tv, beauty pageants and college educations are already there for me, if I want them.
    Festivus

    His definitions and arguments were so clear in his own mind that he was unable to understand how any reasonable person could honestly differ with him.




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    Re: New black quarterbacks club

    Quote Originally Posted by RavenFreak23 View Post
    Just to see what it looks like, let's see the other side of that token. Brett Favre, Kyle Boller, and Brady Quinn announce the formation of the White Quarterback's Club. Look's funny, doesn't it.
    I think a more valid comparison would be the White Cornerback's Club. They're an oppressed minority.




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    Re: New black quarterbacks club

    This isn't a sports issue, it's a social issue. As long as people and groups continue to direct our focus onto racial divides, we will continue to be racially divided.
    Everyone will recognize that black communities, families, and children in most places need all the support they can get, but race-based organizations do as much harm as they do good. By excluding kids of other races this is by definition a racist organization. Call it the "inner city quarterbacks" club or something. 99% of the kids will be black anyhow, they just won't be stigmatized with the knowledge that "I'm only allowed here because I'm black".




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    Re: New black quarterbacks club

    Kaybe Augusta should stop letting Blacks in and let Phil and the field fight it out with Tiger and Vijay out of the way. I wonder how the media would react to that? Seems to me not a very different of a situation, and exactly what these "Black QB's" grandfathes were fighting against, Either that or allow Charlie Frye into the club. Which is it?
    Pure one sided PC-BS. Racism flipped like a light switch in 30 years.




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    Re: New black quarterbacks club

    Quote Originally Posted by jonboy79 View Post
    Racism flipped like a light switch in 30 years.
    I hear this. But I look around at Baltimore and its suburbs, the people who live and work here, and I don't see it.

    Sorry.

    I know from previous threads I'm swimming against the current here, and I'm not likely changing any minds. Oh well.

    :2c:
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    Re: New black quarterbacks club

    The thing is, I'm not saying they shouldn't be able to make a black QB's groups.


    Problem is, it just seems to recognize implicitly a difference between black and white QBs.


    Obviously, they are different in skin color. But making the new groups seems to recognize the stereotypes that black QBs are more mobile but less acurate, etc etc can't really be pocket passers, etc


    It'd be better just to associate with one another and show solidarity w/o a group, and let their level of play on the field speak for itself




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    Re: New black quarterbacks club

    Problem is, it just seems to recognize implicitly a difference between black and white QBs.
    Of coarse there isn't a difference but

    The following statement from the article concerned me the most

    Historically, there has been a disproportionate number of African-American players in quarterback positions. Many believe that they are converted to other positions at an early age, which typically defines their path.
    I think this is an accurate statement. And it could be for a number of reasons as to why younger Black QBs don't get the opportunity. The first thing I think of is financial. A lot of money could go into to grooming a young QB a group like this can help curb that expense. Second this organization can help provide proper coaching or role models to push them as they advance.

    The BQC could provided assistance for the player who may need the help.

    The BQC is designed to encourage future athletic leaders by offering programs that strengthen young athletes both physically and mentally.
    I don't think this is any different than a PAL, YMCA or boys and girls club type of effort. To me it seems like they are just trying to ensure that the playing paths are not altered because of something stupid like the coach playing his kid at the position over the better player.

    I have absolutely no problems with this organization and its goals.
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    Re: New black quarterbacks club

    Why does everyone think there's something wrong with people of the same skin color wanting to form an exclusive club?

    The travesty is that, as someone mentioned earlier, this would be taboo if it were whites forming a white-only club, but for any other race such a club is "empowerment".

    More importantly, ANY private/exclusive club should be able to discriminate on the basis of ANYTHING. That's FREEDOM. Want a club where every member has to be black? Fine. White? Fine. Jewish? Fine. Catholic? Fine. Taller than 6'? Fine. Named Jimbo? Fine. Racist? Fine. Beautiful? Fine. Ugly? Fine. You get my point.

    When the government does it, then there's a problem. If you're a citizen and your money is being stolen to fund our bloated bureaucracy, then you have the right to equal participation in it, whether through voting, seeking employment, earning benefits, protection under the laws, whatever. But it's absolutely idiotic that our legal system can be subverted so that people can sue for membership in private organizations that would otherwise exclude them. Freedom includes the right to associate with whoever you want, not to have an association forced upon you on the basis of diversity.




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    Re: New black quarterbacks club

    Quote Originally Posted by WxKevin View Post
    We are never going to progress in this society until we stop having groups that segregate based on race whether it is black or white. Nothing good can come out of this group.
    Sadly, I agree with this. To me, sports brings people of all colors together, I always mesh with people when I'm at sporting events, moreso than any other event. No now have this club, it's segregating folks all over again, when it's not the least bit necessary. No one cares what you are, as long as you're a winner, that's the most important thing
    Waiting for the next one!!!




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