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    Re: Draft Prospects



    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    The problem is that Ozzie really doesn't like giving up draft picks and he's already given up a 4th rounder for a guy who hasn't been healthy at all this season (Lee Evans).


    However, if Burfict drops into the 20's then there is something wrong.
    I dont think this is true. From what I've seen of Burfict, I haven't been that impressed. I assume some draft sites see what I see as well. CBS sports (NFLdraftscout.com) has Burfict ranked all the way in the mid 50's, behind Kuechly, Hightower, and Te'o. I know rankings are just rankings, but I think it shows he isn't this unanimous top 15 pick everyone says he is.
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    Also, for anybody interested, i created a Google Docs spreadsheet with the top 300 prospects (according to CBS sports, as they had the largest list I could find), in draft. It's sortable by cbs ranking, scouts inc top 32 ranking, walter football rank, draft countdown rank, and by average rank. You can also sort by school or position, and also filter for a school, name, or position, if you are looking for someone in particular.

    Since it is a cloud document, anybody can add onto it. If you guys find any other rankings on the internet (from a trusted website), feel free to add them in. Also, for every player you can add comments on the player by going to insert and comments. Feel free to add a little blurb about a player (quick feet, indeciveness, etc.) Anything to get a feel for what a player is like, since most of us can't watch 75% of these players play. I want to use this as a learning tool by seeing what other people think.

    The only stipulations are you must be signed in to google to view it, and please don't mess around with the work I've put in. I already put in a few hours of work into it, and I'd hate to see it go to waste.

    I hope this because as useful as a tool as I'd like it to be.

    Heres the link
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...E9WVXQ1TC1CcUE

    edit: to sort, right click on the column and click on sort A to Z.
    to filter, click the blue drop down arrow above the column, select clear all, and type in the name, school, or position you are looking for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dandrews View Post
    I dont think this is true. From what I've seen of Burfict, I haven't been that impressed. I assume some draft sites see what I see as well. CBS sports (NFLdraftscout.com) has Burfict ranked all the way in the mid 50's, behind Kuechly, Hightower, and Te'o. I know rankings are just rankings, but I think it shows he isn't this unanimous top 15 pick everyone says he is.
    I could understand being ranked behind Kuechly, but T'eo? Talk about overrated.


    T'eo is Rey Maualuga version 2. Not saying that's a bad thing, he's a tackling machine, but nothing about T'eo's game excites me really.


    I'd also like to point out that several draft sites had Rolando McClain as a late 1st round choice and he went in the top 10.

    I tend to grade MLB's lower anyway because the MLB position doesn't hold the same value that it did 10 years ago. If you have stand out DT's and DE's then you don't necessarily need an all-star cast at the MLB position.

    Vontaze Burfict has that size/speed/reaction combo that you just don't see too often in guys who play MLB. He could play in a 3-4 or a 4-3 defense. He could play in a cover-2 zone defense.

    He and Kuechly are definitely the top two MLB choices at this juncture with Hightower and T'eo coming in right behind them. Now, if Kuechly kills it at the combine and Burfict just does "ok" then I could see him dropping a bit, which would be good for Baltimore. He'd be a great fit in this defense when you consider everything. I'd love to see him in a Ravens uni.

    There are just a lot of teams that will be picking ahead of Baltimore that could conceivably need a MLB.
    Tampa Bay, Tennessee, Philadelphia, Chicago, Pittsburgh, NY Giants, etc.
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    I would love me some Alshon Jeffrey, but one he wont fall to us and two there are bigger needs at LB.




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    Alshon Jeffrey would be pretty bomb. That guy is a monster.
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    I think its more evident than ever that not only do we need that #1 bonified, no one can cover big strong type of receiver, we need him bad!

    Also defensively Linebacker all the way... I say go best player available no matter the position i'm sure that's what Ozzie will do.

    But Honestly i haven't seen a LB as good as Burfict since Patrick Willis. No way we get him so Te'o... Hightower, Kuechly Honestly any one of those guys would be a great pickup.

    Kuechley needs to get arrested or something lol so he drops. maybe smoke a doobie idk, but Getting that dude would be a dream.




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    I don't think we'd go receiver first, but I think we should look at another receiver to take David Reed's spot next year.

    Jordan White in the 3rd round would be pretty awesome. He's a faster version of Boldin, not quite as big though (6' 215lbs).
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    But i don't think Kuechley will come out this year, he seems like a graduate kinda guy.

    Burfict on the other hand yeah i can almost guarantee he's coming out.




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    Kuechley and Teo are both playing in the same game today. Might be one worth watching. I wouldn't be shocked if both players are back on campus next year though.




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    Vontaze Burfict. Must say the highlight video is impressive. The one where hes QB spy and then closes on him doesnt even seem humanly possible, so ridiculously fast in closing speed. athlete perspective and football sense, id like him to be here.

    Two Red flags for me that negates that feeling.

    Stupid bone head penalties and immaturity. seems like at least 2 videos of penalties or cheap shots to every highlight video i found. The one unsportsman penalty he got, his head coach was screaming for him to come off the field and he shook him off. I like that he wanted to stay out there and make up for it, but at the same time you need to listen to your HC. Also he leads with his head almost every single time. thats a penalty in the NFL and he doesnt seem to be changing that technique in college. as the announcers in 2 different videos said that hes received the same penalty the week before, so it must be a habit for him.

    I could see those issues making him drop in the draft in all honesty. Little early to tell, just something I picked up on immediately when watching 5-6 videos. Im sure our scouting department as well as the rest of the NFL will find more to scrutinize him on than i did in 10 minutes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    T'eo is Rey Maualuga version 2. Not saying that's a bad thing, he's a tackling machine, but nothing about T'eo's game excites me really.
    I get what you are saying, but only up to a point.

    I've watched every game of Manti's career and think he's gonna be a very good pro. T'eo has great fundamentals, covers the field well, and makes the plays he should make. If you are looking for a ton of "splash" type plays, that's not him. He doesn't gamble all that often enough to make those type of plays, but he's always where you want him to be.

    If Teo was a Mualuga clone, I think I'd be tickled.




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    Quote Originally Posted by LukeDaniel View Post
    If Teo was a Mualuga clone, I think I'd be tickled.
    Yeah i dont see that as a bad thing at all. I was actually hoping the ravens would take him if he fell to their second pick. I dont think everything hes done in the NFL would make me regret that thought either.
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    If u wanna talk about 3rd round recievers.... This might be my Arkansas bias coming out but.

    Jarius Mutherfucking wright. That little dude is a bad ass. He's speed, just fast, quick as hell too.. He does most of his work in the slot. He's one of the top recievers in the SEC in terms of stats. I think he's #1 or 2 actually.

    Joe Adams is another guy... He will be a late round steal for someone. Keep an eye on him... He's so elusive its incredible, and he has speed for days.

    Both these guys are small, but they are quick, and fast.. Adams is probably my favorite, because i've seen him shake people in ways i didn't think was physically possible.

    This play alone should get him drafted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JAB1985 View Post
    Vontaze Burfict. Must say the highlight video is impressive. The one where hes QB spy and then closes on him doesnt even seem humanly possible, so ridiculously fast in closing speed. athlete perspective and football sense, id like him to be here.

    Two Red flags for me that negates that feeling.

    Stupid bone head penalties and immaturity. seems like at least 2 videos of penalties or cheap shots to every highlight video i found. The one unsportsman penalty he got, his head coach was screaming for him to come off the field and he shook him off. I like that he wanted to stay out there and make up for it, but at the same time you need to listen to your HC. Also he leads with his head almost every single time. thats a penalty in the NFL and he doesnt seem to be changing that technique in college. as the announcers in 2 different videos said that hes received the same penalty the week before, so it must be a habit for him.

    I could see those issues making him drop in the draft in all honesty. Little early to tell, just something I picked up on immediately when watching 5-6 videos. Im sure our scouting department as well as the rest of the NFL will find more to scrutinize him on than i did in 10 minutes.
    The highlights are impressive but you've gotta watch a game man.. they play on versus a lot, as well as sometimes on ESPN

    He is very very impressive, he pops at you.




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    Burfict does look good, but if he's gone, I like Hightower. He's big (6'4 260) and very physical, you always seem him delivering a punishing hit and can also rush the passer very well. Also, from what I understand he's a pretty good guy. I would love to have him.




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