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    Re: Daunte Culpepper are the Ravens interested?



    Quote Originally Posted by Mista T View Post
    What???

    Please enlighten me: how much NFL back-up experience do Finnerty, Olsen, and Smith have -- combined?
    T, you misunderstood me. It's not a position of need precisely *because* we have Boller. That's the value he brings to the table, and that's the value we would not see in a trade. If we trade him it *becomes* a position of need, though presumably Culpepper - who, like I said, I don't think is actually coming - would try to fill. But I'd rather have Boller then Culpepper as a backup anyway, with his experience in the system.

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    Re: Daunte Culpepper are the Ravens interested?

    Dave Gladow of NFL.com thinks this wouldn't make sense for the Ravens...
    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/10217364
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  3. #33

    Re: Daunte Culpepper are the Ravens interested?

    Quote Originally Posted by Losac View Post
    T - how can you want Culpepper over McNair?
    Just looking forward to the 2008 season. Culpepper will be 31 and hopefully fully healed. McNair will be 35 and his arm likely shot. Unless he can demonstrate that he can win a big game, I'd like to see him cut next June. There's no way that we could afford the cap hit of cutting McNair today plus Culpepper's salary plus negotiate Suggs' extension.

    It's all b.s.: Culpepper is possibly still not ready this season, and likely not affordable in any event. His Miami contract is $5.6 million.
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    Re: Daunte Culpepper are the Ravens interested?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mista T View Post
    Just looking forward to the 2008 season.
    Call me optimistic, but I think McNair has at least 2 more years left in him, and after that Troy Smith would be ready to take over. His intangibles already look great, and he'd have the time to sit on the bench and learn from McNair.




  5. #35

    Re: Daunte Culpepper are the Ravens interested?

    I can't believe anyone thinks Boller is worth a 4th round pick.

    Trent Green, a Pro Bowler, was traded for a 5th round pick and I believe the 49ers got Darrel Jackson, a 1,000 yard receiver, for a 4th round pick.




  6. Re: Daunte Culpepper are the Ravens interested?

    When will Baltimore ever be happy with their QB?? I am so sick of this QB chat, I think I'm going to hurl!




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    Re: Daunte Culpepper are the Ravens interested?

    Everyone has failed to mention that Mcnair was had for a 4th round pick.

    if somehow we were to get a 4th for kyle then we ended up trading kyel for Steve.




  8. #38

    Re: Daunte Culpepper are the Ravens interested?

    Everyone has failed to mention that Mcnair was had for a 4th round pick.

    if somehow we were to get a 4th for kyle then we ended up trading kyel for Steve.
    I don't think anyone is missing or even worrying about the 4th round pick that we gave up for Steve after last season. However I'm sure many would be more than happy to get back the 1st we spent on boller as well as the second we used to get him.

    Regardless if Pep is a raven or not, Be it hater or hugger, ain't no way boller is going to be traded for a 4th. It would have been done already if there were any takers.
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    Re: Daunte Culpepper are the Ravens interested?

    Quote Originally Posted by crazyraven View Post
    I don't think anyone is missing or even worrying about the 4th round pick that we gave up for Steve after last season. However I'm sure many would be more than happy to get back the 1st we spent on boller as well as the second we used to get him.

    Regardless if Pep is a raven or not, Be it hater or hugger, ain't no way boller is going to be traded for a 4th. It would have been done already if there were any takers.
    Why do people continue to try and perpetrate this lie?

    We traded our 1st round draft choice for a higher 1st round draft choice. (we used that on Boller) No loss, in other words.

    We then gave up our second round draft choice to make the deal. There fore Boller cost ONE THING - that second rounder/ Period.

    We DID NOT give up a 1st and a 2nd.
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    Re: Daunte Culpepper are the Ravens interested?

    We then gave up our second round draft choice to make the deal. There fore Boller cost ONE THING - that second rounder/ Period.
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    We used our first and second rounder to get the Pats first rounder, the picked Boller. He cost us a second and first. We used two picks to acquire him. This is an accurate statement.

    Grubbs cost us a first rounder this year, if we had used a second and first to trade up higher to get him he would have cost us those two picks.




  11. #41

    Re: Daunte Culpepper are the Ravens interested?

    Grubbs cost us a first rounder this year, if we had used a second and first to trade up higher to get him he would have cost us those two picks
    Or an even more perfect example would be In the case of Ngata, we used a first round and a 6th to switch places to get ngata. The First round pick was used to get him and the 6th was the bait used to move up.

    Art nobody is perpetrating a lie, hindsight is 20/20 and like i said before more people are probably more upset with the way we went and got boller opposed to the way we went and got Mcnair. Maybe your not upset and thats ok. There is no big issue here unless you are making one.

    With that said if Pep was interested in the ravens and the Ravens interested in Pep, Boller would be cut if a deal couldnt be struck with another team. He would be virtually dead wood and the ravens would have to unload him.

    IMO Boller ='s Cullpepper. maybe Pep has more upside...who knows. Maybe a change would do us some good. Not sure though.

    and nurse this is a QB discussion about Pep. Unfortunately Mcnair and Boller and the rest of the QBs are tied to this conversations. So When other posters come on talking about trading Boller for a high pick if we acquired Pep some are going to question that postion when a trent Green recently went for 5th and a Randy Moss went for a 4th.
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    Re: Daunte Culpepper are the Ravens interested?

    I give up. It's a semantics thing. In my mind, a first for a first is a wash. We gave one up - we got one back. The only thing we "gave up" was that second round choice. In exchange we got Boller.
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  13. Re: Daunte Culpepper are the Ravens interested?

    Hello, all! This is my first post on this site. I'm looking forward to participating in the 12th Man message boards.

    My thoughts on Daunte: Hopefully Daunte costs us zero picks because hopefully Daunte is never a Baltimore Raven. I don't doubt that he might have some gas left in the tank, if he can ever get his knee right again, but regardless he's not a guy we need on our roster.




  14. #44

    Re: Daunte Culpepper are the Ravens interested?

    How can anyone say ANYTHING about Troy Smith? The more you say the stupider you sound. It's always the next QB that will be good. And the reason we got McNair for a 4th round pick was because everyone knew Tenn couldn't keep him.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Baltoman07 View Post
    How can anyone say ANYTHING about Troy Smith? The more you say the stupider you sound.
    Easy: he's a six-footer who will charged by 6' 6" to 6' 8" lineman. He would be at a 6" to 8" height disadvantage. Does he have the leaping abaility and throwing motion to overcome such a disadvantage? Very few QBs that short have made it in the NFL in the modern era. (Look it up). He is likely more suited for the CFL or Arena League. That is why 31 other teams passed on him 4 or 5 times. He's a long shot. If he pays off - great gamble. If he doesn't make it: it was only a 5th rounder.

    btw: Maybe it would be "stupid" would be to think that a 5th round 6-footer would be a lock to become a starter in the NFL, given history. It's even "stupider" to insult other board members for expressing opinions contrary to yours.
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