Free agents/recent cuts we might be interested in

**ActualSpamBot** · 09-03-2011, 06:04 PM

He's a good MLB but he'd get eaten alive trying to play ILB in the 3-4. He's just too short and light.

**wickedsolo** · 09-03-2011, 06:08 PM

Originally Posted by ActualSpamBot

He's a good MLB but he'd get eaten alive trying to play ILB in the 3-4. He's just too short and light.

I'll give you short, but he's 245-250lbs. He's a stocky dude.

Also, playing MLB in 3-4 and 4-3 is about position, anticipation, and aggressiveness.

I think the argument that he is too short/small to play MLB in a 3-4 (especially when we play so many different variances) is a bogus argument.

He's never played in a defense like ours. How would anyone know how he'd do?

**Rxdoxx** · 09-03-2011, 06:13 PM

Artis Hicks G cut by Skins but I don't really want him.

**Raveninwoodlawn** · 09-03-2011, 06:21 PM

Xavier Adibi cut by the Texans and Ryan Cook cut by the Vikings.

Also, here's a name that some will remember from last year...Reggie Corner was cut by the Bills. The only reason that name rings a bell to me was from the Bills fan we had here that was trying to convince the board that Corner was a good player and would be a guy that would help us beat the Peyton Mannings and Tom Brady's...and would be more than good value for Jared Gaither.

Now both those guys are on the outs.

**Iscull** · 09-03-2011, 06:25 PM

Originally Posted by wickedsolo

I'll give you short, but he's 245-250lbs. He's a stocky dude.

Also, playing MLB in 3-4 and 4-3 is about position, anticipation, and aggressiveness.

I think the argument that he is too short/small to play MLB in a 3-4 (especially when we play so many different variances) is a bogus argument.

He's never played in a defense like ours. How would anyone know how he'd do?

Lofa is a beast. I don't know how he hasn't been picked up. I actually signed him in my madden franchise. Having ray Lewis and Lofa Tatupu as your ILB's is ridiculous.

**RavenScallywag** · 09-03-2011, 06:30 PM

Originally Posted by Raveninwoodlawn

Now both those guys are on the outs.

Was Gaither cut? Last I heard, he started practicing again and looked like a favorite to backup at LT and make the team.

**akashicrecorder** · 09-03-2011, 06:30 PM

The question is, does Ozzie have 1) the stones, and 2) the cap room to bring a big name that's been cut to the Ravens? I've often wondered why more teams just don't go the 18-1 Cheaters route and/or Jets route and go get a known quantity. (Granted, Jets are almost laughable in that regard, but you know what I mean hopefully.)

**RavenScallywag** · 09-03-2011, 06:34 PM

Jamaal Jackson NOT CUT by Eagles.

**Raveninwoodlawn** · 09-03-2011, 06:41 PM

Originally Posted by RavenScallywag

Was Gaither cut? Last I heard, he started practicing again and looked like a favorite to backup at LT and make the team.

I didn't think he got cut, but I wasn't sure if he was going to make the team.

He didn't fall from graces quite a bit though...he had to take close to the minimum for one year and is now a backup. Not where anybody expected 2 years ago.

**ActualSpamBot** · 09-03-2011, 06:43 PM

Originally Posted by wickedsolo

I'll give you short, but he's 245-250lbs. He's a stocky dude.

A quick internet search shows various sources list him at everything from 230 to 250. I think he's probably a lot closer to the low number than the high one. The guy is not heavily muscled, he has a very slender trunk. He just looks like a small linebacker.

Originally Posted by wickedsolo

Also, playing MLB in 3-4 and 4-3 is about position, anticipation, and aggressiveness.

MLB is all about reading and reacting. Flowing sideline to sideline while the tackles and OLB engage blockers. It's a position built around speed and range.

ILB is more about attacking a gap, taking on a guard or center and either stuffing him into that gap to force a play to bounce out to your OLBs or to stuff the runner. It's a down hill attacking position.

The fact that Ray Lewis could play both at an extremely high level is an aberration and speaks more about what a great player he is than about the similarities in the position.

In addition to Lofa's size concerns, he simply not an attacking LB. He play can be severely degraded by hitting him which is especially concerning when you consider his spotty injury history.

Originally Posted by wickedsolo

I think the argument that he is too short/small to play MLB in a 3-4 (especially when we play so many different variances) is a bogus argument.

You're welcome to think that but you're ignoring a pretty sound argument to listen to your gut.

Originally Posted by wickedsolo

He's never played in a defense like ours. How would anyone know how he'd do?

And Terrell Suggs has never played ILB, who am I to say he isn't a good fit to play there?

If a guy has been successful playing one position in the NFL, it's fairly unlikely that he can equal or even come close to that level of success at a different position. And say what you want, ILB and MLB are different positions. Ray Lewis is not normal, most guys can't make that switch. Look at how much Jonathan Vilma struggled trying to do it with the Jets. They ended up having to trade him for a ham sandwich because he just couldn't make the positional switch.

**Shas** · 09-03-2011, 06:44 PM

Originally Posted by akashicrecorder

The question is, does Ozzie have 1) the stones, and 2) the cap room to bring a big name that's been cut to the Ravens?)

Someone like, oh, Bryant McKinnie or TJ Houshmandzadeh or Lee Evans (who was slated to be cut before the Ravens stepped up with a draft pick to secure him)?

It may be a dough issue, but not a stones level.