Trade Mike Flynn to the Browns?

**RavenScallywag** · 08-16-2006, 01:55 PM

Granted, BB and the coaches love the big oaf too much to do it, but seriously, why not? We know he can't block worth two cents, plus we could get something pretty big out of them for him. At the least, we could get a fourth or fifth round pick for him.

**StingerNLG** · 08-16-2006, 02:00 PM

Yeah, but after Friday I am not ready to turn the line over to Jason Brown. That kid might need another half a year to get himself into a solid playing mode.

**RavenTD** · 08-16-2006, 02:02 PM

As much as we are down on our starting center.Does he really deserve the fate of doom,being sent to Cleveland.:D

**highwater** · 08-16-2006, 02:05 PM

I have to agree with Stinger on this one -- I would love for Brown to take over at center, but he was very disappointing on Friday. It was just one game of course, but I'm beginning to think that we were so desperate for someone to send Flynn to the bench, that we overestimated Brown. I still have high hopes for him, but if that game was any indication, he needs more time.

But having said all that, it's an intriguing idea, because the Browns sure do need some help there.

**RavensDomination** · 08-16-2006, 02:12 PM

I didn't think Brown looked that bad, certainly no worse than Flynn.

**StingerNLG** · 08-16-2006, 02:15 PM

As much as we are down on our starting center.Does he really deserve the fate of doom,being sent to Cleveland.

Especially since he might burst into flames!! :D

http://www.profootball24x7.com/forum...hread.php?t=57

**PurpleRulz** · 08-16-2006, 02:52 PM

It seems as if Flynn will be here until he retires. With Jason Brown not developing as fast as hoped, it looks like Flynn will start the entire season at center.

Of course there are some things to consider with Jason:

- Jason was going against Ngata and our DL which seems very deep and very good.

- Jason is still young and it takes time for young centers. See Rabach, Jeff Mitchell, Mike Flynn, etc. I believe though I am not sure that LaCharles Bentley started off as a guard before becoming a center.

- Friday was Jason Brown's first game at center during a game. Last year, Brown played guard.

Once Jason gets the terminology down and gets more game experience at center, he will be very good.

Brown and Chester are going to be fixtures in our interior line for years to come.

**B-more Ravor** · 08-17-2006, 03:41 PM

Originally Posted by PurpleRulz

It seems as if Flynn will be here until he retires. With Jason Brown not developing as fast as hoped, it looks like Flynn will start the entire season at center.

Well, if Brown doesn't supplant Flynn by next year, it's very possible that they both might be gone. That, or Flynn is gone and Brown is relegated to career back-up status.

Next year, Flynn will, for the first time, cost less to cut than keep, so if he's not the starter, he's a goner, IMO. Flynn's cap number for next year is $2.8M and if he is cut, he will only count $1.6M against the cap, so the team will realize a savings of $1.2M.

IMO, he's going to have to play really well this year to see next year.

**AZRAVEN** · 08-16-2006, 03:09 PM

As much as I want to see Flynn off our line I don't hate him and I sure don't want him dead which is what he would be in Cleveland. :D

**ravenmaniac** · 08-16-2006, 03:11 PM

Our WHOLE OL had a horrible yr last yr. Think about it Zeus, Vincent, Flynn, Muli and Ogden has his worse yr ever. These guys deserve a chance to prove that they are better than that. Trading our starting C to a division rival for a 5th round draft pick is freakin ludicrous. Brown, Terry, and Chester just give us some much needed depth in that area. The Clowns would have to blow us away to make a trade like that.

**RavenScallywag** · 08-16-2006, 03:17 PM

ok, I guess this is true, but Flynn in particular has been pretty bad over the past couple seasons. We signed him long term, then watched Casey Rabach outperform him and then sent packing, since we had already committed to Flynn.

in all honesty, I feel bad for the Browns this year. without a starting C for this long, their OL is SERIOUSLY going to be thrown off. Plus, their QB is not very mobile, so we're looking at a chance to break the David Carr record of times sacked in a single season.

**B-more Ravor** · 08-17-2006, 03:37 PM

Originally Posted by RavenScallywag

ok, I guess this is true, but Flynn in particular has been pretty bad over the past couple seasons. We signed him long term, then watched Casey Rabach outperform him and then sent packing, since we had already committed to Flynn.

Well, I can't really blame the FO for that. You've got to remember that Rabach showed nothing until 2004 when Flynn got injured. For the 3 prior years, he couldn't beat out Flynn or Bennie Anderson even.

Flynn had his best year in 2003, when Jamal ran for 2000 yards. Flynn did play well that year (and better than Rabach did in 2004). Most surprisingly, 2003 was Flynn's contract year. Also, not surprisingly, Rabach had his best year (or his only year, really) during his contract year.

Unfortunately, since then Flynn has stunk - especially last year.