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06-29-2011, 05:01 PM #25Legendary RSR Poster
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Re: FA based on the expected new CBA... Will be CRAZY
Another way to look at this:
Mike Brown refused to even construct an indoor practice facility for the team.....do you think he is really going to invest in the infrastructure of the team, the scouts, facilities and the like when he now has to pay millions more for salary?
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Re: FA based on the expected new CBA... Will be CRAZY
I get the sense that Jah Reid was a third rounder, instead of a first or second, because he is your prototypical right tackle. If scouts saw that he had the potential to play left tackle, he might have gone higher. That does not mean, however, that he cannot come in and play RT very soon.
I do not like to be too concerned with the round that a player was selected in. Can he run block? Yes, he can run block. Does he have good footwork? Yes, he does have good footwork. Does he have good use of his hands? He has decent use of his hands, considering he is a rookie, but could stand to improve. Is he strong enough? Yes, he is strong enough."Please take with you this final sword, The Excellector. I am praying that your journey will be guided by the light", Leon Shore
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Re: FA based on the expected new CBA... Will be CRAZY
Michael Oher is far from the first player, and not even the first Raven, that has been considered undersized for his position. Ray Lewis was considered an undersized middle linebacker. Please correct me if I am wrong, but I think that Priest Holmes was considered an undersized running back. Jermaine Lewis was one of the smaller return men. Kelly Gregg is an undersized lineman. Ray Rice is an undersized running back. Josh Wilson is an undersized corner back.
He had an inconsistent first year. A man with his physical capabilities and work ethic should do just fine to improve at the position.
He will be the starting left tackle, not only as a result of his improvement. Jared Gaither is not going to come into training camp in the sort of shape and condition that could rival Oher. If we have waited for that this long (Gaither is entering his fourth 'playing' season), I highly doubt that it will come now. Last year would have been the year for him to really rid himself of the doubters and come into camp in unbelievable shape. We all saw how that turned out."Please take with you this final sword, The Excellector. I am praying that your journey will be guided by the light", Leon Shore
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06-29-2011, 05:36 PM #28Pro Bowl Poster
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06-29-2011, 06:52 PM #29Legendary RSR Poster
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Re: FA based on the expected new CBA... Will be CRAZY
The fans kind of have their hands tied with Mike Brown. That's part of the problem with the Bengals.
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06-29-2011, 09:17 PM #31
Re: FA based on the expected new CBA... Will be CRAZY
I never doubted Gaither from the start so maybe I am biased, but you do remember the 28 games he started right? The O scored more PPG, gave up fewer sacks, rushed for more YPC and TDs, even with a lesser Wr group and younger QB.
The guys who grade OL play gave Gaither very high grades, KC Joiner, Profootball focus, and Filmstudy all came to about the same conclusions. Maybe because Gaither followed Ogden at LT his performance was not as noticable, but the guy was getting the job done vs very good rushers game in and game out, even with a severe shoulder and neck injury in the mix.
Now last year, stuff happened. Gaither wanted a new contract, the team wanted him to sign his tender and come to every OTA, we know how that worked out. Gaither did sign his tender eventually, but after the draft was over reducing the likelyhood of a trade. Then it was a foot injury, then it was the back. There was some differing opions from the team doctors and a spine specialist, Gaither lost some weight, but what do any of us know about the situation other than the guy wanted a new contract and then got hurt? Everything else is either off the record innuendo or pure speculation.
Gaither has said on the record that he wants to come back. The team has said on the record that they want him back. The team did not say he was a priority like they did with Yanda, but they never said the only way he is coming back is as a RFA or anything as has been speculated.
I think it is very clear that our best OL combination is Gaither, Grubbs, Birk, Yanda and Oher with Chester, Cousins and now I guess Harewood and Ried in the mix, but it is going to be up to the market to dermine the value and price of our free agents. We may lose both Gaither and Yanda, we may lose one and keep the other, but I am hoping they keep the OL intact the way it was in 2009 when it was one of the best in the NFL as a group.
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Re: FA based on the expected new CBA... Will be CRAZY
"What would you give for the man beside you?"
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06-30-2011, 09:00 AM #33
Re: FA based on the expected new CBA... Will be CRAZY
Yes, that's the way it's always worked in the past, however, the new proposal is that teams must spend 90% of the Cap in real dollars, ie cash payments, not artificial Cap calculations (like dead money and bonus prorations).
That's the difference I was considering. The 90% would not include dead money - teams would be forced to spend that amount in actual payroll.
Players believe they can justify a 48 percent take because of the projected revenue growth, as well as built-in mechanisms that require teams to spend close to 100 percent of the salary cap, a source told ESPN.com's John Clayton. The mandatory minimum spending increase is an element that concerns lower-revenue clubs, sources say.
For example, if the 2011 salary cap were to be at $120 million, a team would have to have a cash payroll of close to $120 million. In the previous collective bargaining agreement, the team payroll floor was less than 90 percent of the salary cap and was only in cap figures, not cash.
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Re: FA based on the expected new CBA... Will be CRAZY
Let's not get too excited about the possibility of Gaither coming back though.
The reality is that his agent is feeding him stuff along the lines of getting a huge contract, starting at LT, etc. Those two things aren't likely in Baltimore. Gaither is smart to not burn his bridges, but he wouldn't be the first super talented guy to flake out. I would love to see him come back and take it all seriously, but he's got to put the effort into it to earn the coaching staff's trust back. That's what Harbs was eluding to when he said that he wanted to bring Gaither back.
He specifically said that he'd like to have the "340lb Jared Gaither" back. Meaning, take it seriously and we'll take you seriously.Disclaimer: The content posted is of my own opinion.
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Re: FA based on the expected new CBA... Will be CRAZY
During the 2008 season, Jared Gaither's first season at LT, he did very well against the below-average and average teams. However, against the tougher defenses, Pittsburgh in particular, he did not do as well and needed the same amount of help that we always seem to need in the backfield against Pittsburgh. James Harrison abused him in the second half of the first Pittsburgh game, as well as the second Pittsburgh game.
If you take a look at Jared Gaither's health, you will see a pattern. While he played the entire 2008 season, he did so with an injured shoulder which, while commendable, is slightly alarming. Many consider 2009 to be his best season, but he missed five games due to different injuries (foot and neck). During the following off-season, his foot was still problematic and he later injured his back.
What has been the criticism of Jared Gaither since his time at Maryland? That he does not put forth enough effort away from the field, getting his body into shape and proper conditioning. When that happens, injuries are not far away. They have lingered for most of Gaither's career.
That is why John Harbaugh called him out, because Harbaugh understood that some of those injuries were preventable, if Gaither had been in better shape. Harbaugh understood that while Gaither played well, he would not be able to keep that up, let alone reach his full potential, until he worked harder away from the field. That is why the team was so concerned about monitoring him.
Fans who are holding on to Gaither's past play, will not get that again, at this rate, until Gaither changes his ways off the field. He will just be injury prone.Last edited by The Excellector; 06-30-2011 at 12:58 PM.
"Please take with you this final sword, The Excellector. I am praying that your journey will be guided by the light", Leon Shore
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