It's official, OBYs a citizen while displaying...

[AirFlacco]

Now we know for sure OBY was born in Honolulu, Hawaii after finally
displaying his birth certificate and Trump is taking credit for it.

Before he got on OBYs case he never displayed it. So the question now
is why did he wait over 2 years to do it? Even Hillary wanted to see
it when she ran vs him.

Fact is, he did it now because the USA TODAY poll and all the other
polls showed that most Americans believed he wasn't a citizen. Like
most presidents, OBY lives and dies by the polls and it was becoming a
distraction. Even most DEMs wanted to see it.

So Donald takes credit saying its the proudest moment of his life because
he put pressure on OBY to show it.

Meanwhile, OBY says he just doesn't have time to discuss this silliness.
Silliness, then flies off to tape a show with Oprah and then goes to some
fund risers in New York for his next campaign while doing nothing about the
gas crises or the Libyan War or working on unemployment.

So now Donald is pressing to see his grades and how he got into Harvard.
They are sealed too and nobody has seen them. except Wolf Blitzer of
CNN who claims he has.

How could that be when they are sealed and never opened.


I mean, why is everything such a big secret - his birth certificate and now his
grades.

When someone asked Trump to
show his finances he said he will when he announces his candidacy. Then it's
the law but he won't be hiding - if he runs.


One final thing that I've been saying about the birth certificate. OBY keeps
saying he's not a Muslim but his father obviously was and according to
Muslim law, the son of a Muslim is always a Muslim according to Muslims.

The birh certificate says his father was born in Kenya so he is a Muslim.
That makes OBY a Muslim and explains why he sided with them on every
dispute with Israel even diverting bunker buster bombs away from them
and forcing them out of the Gaza and trying to force Israelies out of
East Jerusalem.

After 63 years as an ally and friend to Israel, OBY is forcing America to abandon
them. Remember, at Armegeddon, all the countries of the world attack Israel including
the US if it is still here. OBY is the first president setting that final stage up.

That Muslim part officially explains a lot of things and I've been right all along
that he was Muslim and I was one of the first to say it.

Here's the certificate.


http://www.foxnews.com/interactive/p...h-certificate/

[AirFlacco]

This was posted on another board by a pal, so I'm putting it here and
as someone else said, Trump got the most powerful man in the world to
do something he didn't want to do for 2 years. this is what a leader
does - he leads and gets results.
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What was interesting is how Trump trumped Obama at his own game of Saul Alinsky tactics. Obama has been a master of deflecting his critics by mocking and ridiculing them. Trump took it right to the President, publicly taunting him over this - and the President saw that the public was starting to listen more to Trump and less to him. So in that sense, yes, the President blinked and was forced to play a card that he really wanted to hold. As HB and BMann have claimed though, the ultimate winner is Obama. The long form certificate is exactly what he has been claiming. Does Trump have a card to beat it? It doesn't look like it. Now he's off demanding release of the President's college records. Now we are well outside of the constitutional matter and I'm perfectly fine with Obama not releasing his school records. His grades in school are none of Trump's business.

[NCRAVEN]

This really doesn't have any thing to do with this topic. But I saw it posted on another board and your pal's post made me want to share.

"If you voted for Obama in 2008 to prove you’re not racist, you’ll have to find someone else to vote for in 2012 to prove you’re not an idiot. "

[AirFlacco]

LOL - It has everything to do with it.

That's why Galen has been playing the race card in here for 2 years calling us
a bigot.

[TheExtraPoint]

The new Republican/Tea Party standard of leadership - be vehemently wrong, so long as you prove can it.

What. A. Joke.

[AirFlacco]

Trump is anything but a conservative but he is OBYs worse nightmare
because he's a loose cannon.
He's not associated with anything, certainly not the GOPs mainstream.

He's not part of the establishment. He just doesn't have any respect
for OBY and doesn't care if someone says he is politically incorrect or
racist as Galen would say.

He's showing the GOP how to beat Obama which McCain couldn't do.

[NCRAVEN]

Trump is anything but a conservative but he is OBYs worse nightmare
because he's a loose cannon.
He's not associated with anything, certainly not the GOPs mainstream.

He's not part of the establishment. He just doesn't has any respect
for OBY and doesn't care if someone says he is politically incorrect or
racist as Galen would say.

He's showing the GOP how to beat Obama which McCain couldn't do.

But that won't stop libs from trying to saying he is and than tying his views to every person who is a conservative/moderate republican/independent/republican/libertarian... well anybody who is not a lib really.

[AirFlacco]

OBY needs to start getting back his independents and youths that
put him in and stop playing the race card.

[HoustonRaven]

The new Republican/Tea Party standard of leadership - be vehemently wrong, so long as you prove can it.

What. A. Joke.

What is a joke (besides your grammatical gaffe) is you trying to pin this birther nonsense on the GOP / Tea Party as a whole.

[Galen Sevinne]

What is a joke (besides your grammatical gaffe) is you trying to pin this birther nonsense on the GOP / Tea Party as a whole.

The GOP and TP's have been either responsible or complicit in the birther nonsense all along. There has yet to be a current conservative leader outside of maybe Romney who completely denies Birtherism AND doesn't add a "but" clause such as "he should have done it sooner" or "one just has to wonder about this or that". Its a typical southern strategy approach of conservatives and it doesn't take a genius to see it.

[NCRAVEN]

The GOP and TP's have been either responsible or complicit in the birther nonsense all along.

Here I'll help you out. Here are two very well know (and hated) conservative/republican/tea party for ya start about 1:19

http://www.popmodal.com/video/7331/A...th-certificate

[TheExtraPoint]

What is a joke (besides your grammatical gaffe) is you trying to pin this birther nonsense on the GOP / Tea Party as a whole.

Ha! Please. The "birther" logic is exclusive to those two segments of the American populace.

There are plenty of respectable republicans and tea partiers out there, and I never have and never would assert otherwise. Some are on this board.

But the clear-cut Republican front-runner in polling for the Presidential nomination as of TODAY also happens to be the single-most recognizable face in the birther movement to-date; Donald Trump. A guy who speaks at well-attended tea party rallies and who will run for President as a Republican whether or not you feel he's a "conservative" (a word I neither mentioned nor implied).

So it's no wonder I called Trump's approach - yell, scream, lob baseless and ultimately false accusations, and be proud of them - the new "standard of leadership" in both parties. It's because that is exactly who those two parties are embracing as their best hope to unseat the black, foreign, Muslim, conspiracy president they want so badly to be a person he is not.

Perhaps you don't agree with Trump or the birthers. I personally find that commendable, not that my opinion particularly matters to you or anyone. But the real problem is, both parties as a whole doesn't agree with YOU.

A lot can change. Maybe a new, new standard of leadership will emerge in those parties, and it will look more responsible. More issues-oriented even. Something like the vision you think the party portrays to the rest of the civilized world. Perhaps Trump will, as I anticipate, simply fade away into his self-aggrandizing world of flaunted excess and faux-accomplishment.

But if for only a short-time, this is who most Republicans want as their President - who they feel best represents their ideals and vision for this country.

I'm generally not one for labels. I think it's unfair to confine a human being who is capable of exercising independence of thought to any one-word description. Of course, that distinction doesn't necessarily apply to everyone.