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    Happy birthday Robert E. Lee/Edgar Allen Poe

    Lee, future General of the Confederal Army who was also the most
    beloved General in American history was born on this date in 1807 and Poe in 1809.

    Poe is famous for giving us the Raven.

    You can debate the merits of both.

    BTW, I was just watchng the movie, Gettysburgh, and had Lee won the
    battle he would have marched straight to Wash DC and burned it and
    ended the war.

    He would have also burned Baltimore as well since it was on the way.
    They would have gotten even for Atlanta.


    In fact, Baltimore County also suffered slightly from the Civil War, once being raided by Confederate
    forces in July 1864; the invaders burned the suburban mansion of Maryland’s governor,
    Augustus W. Bradford.

    A Confederate Calvalry got as far south as Govans on York Rd and fired a few shots and
    rode off. And the Confederate officer who led them down after attacking Towson became the
    Baltimore City Police Chief in the 1870s.







    http://biggovernment.com/publius/201...day-edition-2/



    I'D RATHER BE WATERBOARDING
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    Re: Happy birthday Robert E. Lee/Edgar Allen Poe

    From Wiki:


    During the Civil War, Towson was the scene of two minor engagements. Many of Towson's citizens were sympathetic to the southern cause and so much so that Ady's Hotel, later the Towson Hotel and the current site of the Recher Theatre, flew a southern flag.[11][12][13] The Union Army found it necessary to overtake the town by force on June 2, 1861.[14] During the raid, the Union army seized weapons from citizens at Ady's Hotel.[14] A local paper, in jest, referred to Towson as the “strongly fortified and almost impregnable city of Towsontown” and downplays the need for the attack, stating, “the distinguished Straw, with only two hundred and fifty men, has taken a whole city and nearly frightened two old women out of their wits.”[14] The second engagement took place around July 12, 1864 between Union and Confederate forces. On July 10, 1864, a 135-man Confederate cavalry detachment attacked the Northern Central Railway in nearby Cockeysville, under orders from Gen. Bradley T. Johnson. The First and Second Maryland Cavalry, led by Baltimore County native and pre-war member of the Towson Horse Guards, Maj. Harry W. Gilmor, attacked strategic targets throughout Baltimore County and Harford County, including cutting telegraph wires along Harford Road, capturing two trains and a Union General, and destroying a railroad bridge in Joppa, Maryland. Following what became known as Gilmor's Raid, the cavalry encamped in Towson overnight at Ady's Hotel where his men rested and Gilmor met with friends.[11][15] The next day, a large federal cavalry unit was dispatched from Baltimore to overtake Gilmor's forces. Though outnumbered by more than two to one, the Confederate cavalry attacked the federal unit, breaking the federal unit and chasing them down York Road to around current day Woodbourne Avenue within Baltimore City limits.[11][16][17] Gilmor's forces traveled south along York Road as far south as Govans, before heading west to rejoin Gen. Johnson's main force.[18] Following the war, Gilmor served as the Baltimore City Police Commissioner in the 1870s.





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    Re: Happy birthday Robert E. Lee/Edgar Allen Poe

    Happy Birthday Robert E. Lee???????

    You racist





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    Re: Happy birthday Robert E. Lee/Edgar Allen Poe

    LOL - LEE got his citizenship back - about 100 years after his death.

    He applied for it after the war but it got lost, either deliberately or undeliberately
    and was never found til the 1970s when someone stumbled over it at the
    National Archives in DC and presented it to a Senator from Virginia.

    He introduced it to Congress and they voted on giving it back about a 100
    years after his death.

    Pickett of Pickett's charge, got his back a year before his death and Pickett was no where near
    the charge. He was in the rear. His aid said he got as close to the action as most
    division commanders. It should have been called Armistead's charge because he actually got
    over the ridge before getting killed. The name should be familiar because his uncle was the
    commander of Ft McHenry when the British bombed it.


    Longstreet fell in with Republicans after the war and got a top beauracratic job with the rail road
    and Grant sent him to Turkey in the diplomatic corps. Confederates criticized him but he
    answered back in his book. See link. He lived longer than any Confederal general til 1904.

    Lee should have listened to him and fallen back after the first day of the battle.



    http://www.civilwarhome.com/longbio.htm

    BGW, when I watched the movie and saw the American flag still standing at the top of
    the Little Roundtop with all those dead confederate soldiers around it I was proud. That
    was my flag. The Confederate flag was never mine although I respected their right to leave
    the union.

    As Sherman said, we left England so they had the right to secceed. He just questioned the logic
    of it. About 10% of males between 20-45 for the North died and about 30% for the South.
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    Without the oath of allegiance no action could be taken on Lee's pardon application. Although Lee must have been disappointed, he accepted the matter stoically and made no further attempts to pursue a pardon. Robert E. Lee died in 1870 without receiving a pardon or having his citizenship restored. And, for the next 100 years the matter was considered a closed chapter of history.

    Then, in 1970, a Civil War buff obtained permission to research old State department files stored in the National Archives. During his research, he came across a cardboard box labeled "Virginia." While rummaging through this box, he spied an aged sheet of paper containing a faded pen and ink inscription. Upon examination, he was stunned to learn that he was actually holding the notarized pledge of allegiance to the United States that Robert E. Lee had executed in 1865. Considering the numerous changes in administrations over the years, changes in State department staffing and relocations of offices and files, it is almost miraculous that this single sheet of paper survived for over a century, first in the State department and then in the National Archives.


    But Congress, to its credit, overwhelmingly voted in favor of the resolution and President Gerald Ford indicated his willingness to sign it. The signing ceremony took place on August 5, 1975, at Arlington House, the former home of General Lee's family. The room was filled with distinguished citizens and dignitaries including Virginia's Governor, its Senators and its Representatives. These excerpts from the comments President Ford made at the signing ceremony are a fitting tribute to Robert E. Lee.





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