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09-18-2006, 01:22 AM #13
Re: Why does Mcnair get a free pass?
Brees just had a 26-41, 353 day with 2 TD's. I think he's acclimated
His QB rating was 67 last week against the Browns.
Weak argument, any idiot knows that QB's in new systems need time to get in sync with thier recievers, it just does'nt happen overnight. You figure just because McNair has been in the league for 12 years, he can pick up a new playbook and know it inside and out in 3 months. McNair was in a new Offense last year, and did'nt get a full grip on it until the middle of the season. Its a tough transition, its almost like being a rookie again, even McNair admitted that after he first came here.
And 2 games or 10 games, overthrowing and shorthopping your recievers, or leading them out of bounds, shouldn't happen if you're a 10 year vet. Now, to go with that, the offensive line gave him NO HELP. But I still to this day don't know why people expected that McNair would make Mike Flynn and Keydrick Vincent better players.
Culpepper will never be the same after that knee injury. And can you even name his receivers without looking them up? 7 sacks today. Sound like a familiar team?Last edited by Heap86; 09-18-2006 at 01:36 AM.
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09-18-2006, 01:33 AM #14
Re: Why does Mcnair get a free pass?
Oh I'm sorry Heap. I didn't realize how smart you were and how we were all idiots. Especially when you just summarily dismissed Brees's perfomance today. In synch overnight? Let me put those stats back up for you:
26-41, 353 day with 2 TD's. You think Brees could throw 353 yards out of synch with Joe Horn? But I get it, only an idiot yada-yada.
BTW not that I want to correct you or anything, because only an idiot wouldn't know this, but for getting acclimated to a new system last year, McNair's stat line was:
61.3% for 3161 6.64YPA 16TD/11INT 82.4 rating.
I could see where he was having trouble. His big problem last year was going 4-12. But as some have argued on the other board, he looked pretty good losing.
I guess you did'nt see Mark Brunell is his first year in Washington, he sucked, but after a year in one system, it seemed to click. Now he is in another new system, and sucking again.
Culpepper did not injure his throwing arm.
And if you notice, Carson Palmer hasn't been sacked 7 times in a game since coming back.
Save the insults for YBR.Last edited by StingerNLG; 09-18-2006 at 01:47 AM.
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09-18-2006, 01:48 AM #15
Re: Why does Mcnair get a free pass?
Weak argument, any idiot knows that QB's in new systems need time to get in sync with thier recievers, it just does'nt happen overnight.
Todd Heap 10 catches
Derrick Mason- 8 catches
Mark Clayton- 5 catches
Seems like he in sync with his receivers to me.
There's no reason to make excuses for Mcnair. He had a bad game and that's it. This thread wasn't started to debate between Mcnair and Boller as football players. We all know Mcnair is the better player. The main reason I started it was to compare how people react after a bad game by one of our QB's. It's amazing how different the opinions are. Some are sitting here saying Mcnair struggled, but we still won so we can forget the entire game. Had it been Boller some would be sitting here saying we won, but we have to bash Kyle Boller because he had a bad game.
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09-18-2006, 02:05 AM #16
Re: Why does Mcnair get a free pass?
I could see where he was having trouble. His big problem last year was going 4-12. But as some have argued on the other board, he looked pretty good losing.
It had nothing to do with thier lack of Defense? I mean it must be McNair's inability to put up the 30+ points the Titans needed to win games last year.
And you come up with Mark Brunell? I didn't realize a system could cause you to over and underthrow recievers and go -16 yards in 2 possessions. But silly me, I must be an idiot.
But Brees did. Didn't have any problems today. Pennington twice and has been out for a good while. Hasn't had much problem throwing the ball.
Oh I'm sorry Heap. I didn't realize how smart you were and how we were all idiots. Especially when you just summarily dismissed Brees's perfomance today. In synch overnight? Let me put those stats back up for you:
26-41, 353 day with 2 TD's. You think Brees could throw 353 yards out of synch with Joe Horn? But I get it, only an idiot yada-yada.
You cannot expect New QB's to be perfect right away.
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09-18-2006, 07:23 AM #17Pro Bowl Poster
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Re: Why does Mcnair get a free pass?
Let's all be happy we walked away with a W. We're 2-0. Mcnair needs a little more time to get in sync. Remember Ozzie dicked around with bringing him in here. We also have a joke of an offensive line. Someone needs to tell the Wizard that being fat is not the only qualification to play o-line in the NFL.
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09-18-2006, 07:48 AM #18On The Practice Squad
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Re: Why does Mcnair get a free pass?
Originally Posted by Heap86
I fully understand TTRaven's double-standard argument.
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09-18-2006, 08:11 AM #19
Re: Why does Mcnair get a free pass?
The reason why Mcnair gets a free ride is:
1. He has played only 2 games and won both. Boller had 3 years to do something and didnt.
2.Mcnair has not looked pretty but none of his mistakes has cost us the game. (ie boller)
3. Untill Mcnair's fumbles, bad throws, actually costs us a game he will get a free ride, just like all great players, their past gives them that. Boller has no past, present, maybe a future if he settles down and learns from mcnair how to avoid the rush.
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09-18-2006, 08:22 AM #20
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Childish responses?
Why?
Because they don't agree with you and your premise?
Give me a break...
If you ask me your whole motivation for starting that thread (and then coming over here to bash the people who responded to you) is childish. I almost locked it as soon as I saw it. It was a fairly obvious attempt to stir the pot...but I was pleased with the civil tone of the majority of people who answered.THE 2nd WAVE LOYAL™
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09-18-2006, 08:43 AM #21
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Double Standard, Huh?
If we won this game with Boller, very few would be questioning Boller's performance, we would just be happy that Boller won the game, Much like his performances in the past. McNair didn't lose us the game, of course he did'nt win it for us either.
McNair also gets a free pass, because a week earlier, he managed to do what Boller in his 3 year career has seldomly done, win a game on the road.
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09-18-2006, 08:59 AM #22
Re: Why does Mcnair get a free pass?
Yeah, Steve McNair was definatly the reason the Titans went 4-12
It had nothing to do with thier lack of Defense? I mean it must be McNair's inability to put up the 30+ points the Titans needed to win games last year.
Why will Culpepper never be the same from a knee injury? Do you know this to be a proven fact? Players bounce back from serious injuries all the time.
Brees had to throw the ball 41 times against the Packers D, and thier O-line gave Brees all day to throw.
Does McNair have to throw 300+ yards when our Defense is completely shutting down the opponent, give Brees that big of a lead and see if they have him throwing that much.
If we won this game with Boller, very few would be questioning Boller's performance, we would just be happy that Boller won the game,
McNair also gets a free pass, because a week earlier, he managed to do what Boller in his 3 year career has seldomly done, win a game on the road.
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09-18-2006, 09:05 AM #23Regular 1st Stringer
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Re: Why does Mcnair get a free pass?
McNair doesn't get a free pass. He has earned and paid for his pass many times over. A proven sucessful QB has earned the right to have a lousy game without the fans losing their minds about it.
I'm not sure what kind of "pass" you think he's getting. He sucked today, he knew it, the coaches knew it, and the fans know it. Is the suggestion that we should be calling for another QB? If so, that suggestion is silly.
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09-18-2006, 09:16 AM #24
Re: Why does Mcnair get a free pass?
A proven sucessful QB has earned the right to have a lousy game without the fans losing their minds about it.
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