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  1. #151
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    Re: Why does Mcnair get a free pass?



    Quote Originally Posted by crazyraven View Post
    Can we at least bitch when we lose. Some of these posts are amazing... IMHO So far Mcnair has been worth the money especially at 3-0.



    Art, she has her crystal ball but I'm sure nothing will be said...so I'll say it.
    In the interest of accuracy, Crazy, GKB was predicting what might happen in the future, as opposed to trying to predict what already didn't happen in the past. That thought is starting to be hard to follow, so I'll just say that...

    Predicting what may happen someday is speculation with some chance of success.

    Predicting what already has happened isn't speculation at all, it is killing time with make-believe.

    And they claimed it wouldn't be said.
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  2. #152

    Re: Why does Mcnair get a free pass?

    LOL thats a good spin...

    However I will say that both of your circumstance seem to have some sort of scrying, which is what a crystal allows one to do.

    ....anyway

    I'll leave it at that and will except where your coming from




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    Re: Why does Mcnair get a free pass?

    New word alert:

    Scrying is the occult practice of using a medium, most commonly a reflective surface or translucent body, to aid perceived psychic abilities such as clairvoyance. The media often used to "see" are water, polished precious stones, crystal balls, or mirrors. Scrying has been used in many cultures as a means of seeing the past, present, or future; in this sense scrying constitutes a form of divination. Wikipedia




  4. #154
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    Re: Why does Mcnair get a free pass?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dabruise View Post
    New word alert:

    Scrying is the occult practice of using a medium, most commonly a reflective surface or translucent body, to aid perceived psychic abilities such as clairvoyance. The media often used to "see" are water, polished precious stones, crystal balls, or mirrors. Scrying has been used in many cultures as a means of seeing the past, present, or future; in this sense scrying constitutes a form of divination. Wikipedia
    Wasn't that an old Leslie Gore tune? 'Now it's Judy's turn to scry, Judy's turn to scry..."

    BTW, which of you slipped one of those Back-to-the-future crystals to Tony Lombardi? I read the article also. THIS MADNESS HAS TO CEASE!
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  5. #155
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    Re: Why does Mcnair get a free pass?

    Quote Originally Posted by crazyraven View Post
    Can we at least bitch when we lose. Some of these posts are amazing... IMHO So far Mcnair has been worth the money especially at 3-0.
    Funny Crazy, you bitched about Boller everytime he won. It's amusing that you can't apply the same standards to ALL Ravens QBs.

    Keep thinkin' that McNair is the answer for the offense. Newsflash, he's not. Just go back to your "ball watching" and keep those McNair Pimpin' Glasses on, ok?

    I'm sure in a few weeks, after the Ravens actually play the cream of the NFL instead of the dregs, and lose because this pathetic offense, that you finally see the truth. Then again, maybe not.




  6. #156
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    Re: Why does Mcnair get a free pass?

    Quote Originally Posted by Heap86 View Post
    Yep, Ozzie sure got ripped. I mean what has Steve McNair accomplished?

    With Stats like that, he shouldn't have been envited to a Pro-Bowl or win an MVP award
    Yeah, look at those MVP stats from McNair's first 3 games WITH THE RAVENS. He's a shoo-in for THIS YEARS NFL MVP!!




  7. #157

    Re: Why does Mcnair get a free pass?

    Quote Originally Posted by GirlsKickButt View Post
    Funny Crazy, you bitched about Boller everytime he won. It's amusing that you can't apply the same standards to ALL Ravens QBs.

    Keep thinkin' that McNair is the answer for the offense. Newsflash, he's not. Just go back to your "ball watching" and keep those McNair Pimpin' Glasses on, ok?

    I'm sure in a few weeks, after the Ravens actually play the cream of the NFL instead of the dregs, and lose because this pathetic offense, that you finally see the truth. Then again, maybe not.
    Why do you care so much about what I thought about when boller was in? Why are you and so many others so hung up on this. Move along already with the Boller war garbage. For now its over, lay down your arms for god sakes. Mcnair is here. You should be happy we have him.

    Here's something for you to chew on, If boller won 3 games in a row to start the season I would be very happy with him. As I would with any QB who could lead the team to such a marvelous starting record. I want this team to win and right now we are winning. You can't argue with success...that is unless you have an ax to grind.

    I say you should stop with your chicken little philosophy and get with the rest of us and enjoy the wins. Also Why can't The Ravens be the cream of the crop? They have played well as a Team and this is something they havent done in a very long time. Don't be such a downer.




  8. #158

    Re: Why does Mcnair get a free pass?

    Quote Originally Posted by crazyraven View Post
    Here's something for you to chew on, If boller won 3 games in a row to start the season I would be very happy with him.




  9. #159

    Re: Why does Mcnair get a free pass?

    That's Real Clever and "civil", HW. Please play by the rules and stop the childish games. I am here to talk Ravens football with out being insulted. This is not YBR, and I intend to stick to the rules of each forum I join then again you have already been warned by the mods. If you have something to debate me about then by all means lets have at it. If you don't kindly but out.




  10. #160

    Re: Why does Mcnair get a free pass?



    Man this thread has gotten fun to watch. It's been hard to take it seriously the last page or so. But on the good side I finally found my sitting-back-eating-popcorn-watching-the-show picture.

    But I HAVE to ask, I don't know why......

    If boller won 3 games in a row to start the season I would be very happy with him.
    I don't remember you being happy with Boller when he was 7-3 in 2004. Were you?




  11. #161

    Re: Why does Mcnair get a free pass?

    I don't remember you being happy with Boller when he was 7-3 in 2004. Were you?
    Ok since you asked like a gentleman...Yes I was happy when he was 7-3 but lets not forget he didnt start the season 3-0 (thats a big difference), I will have to say I didn't have a negative thing to say for the first year or so. I actually was at the Jets game and was able to stick it in the face to the boys back home in NY.

    If your looking at a point in time where I became discouraged and vocal about Boller, it was after the home Bengals game (2004). I could no longer keep a straight face when defending him. I remember defending Dilfer the same way but at least he won 7 straight regular season games and 4 playoffs games. McNair gets the same love and he gets a few free pass only because of who he is and what the team has accomplished so far.

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  12. #162

    Re: Why does Mcnair get a free pass?

    he gets a few free pass only because of who he is and what the team has accomplished so far.
    My compliments, Crazy! I believe that you are the first to admit that you are actually giving Mcnair a free pass.

    All I had heard from others to date was: "it's the OL" , or "he's still learning the system", or (my favorite) "ignore the shitty performance, the weak arm, and the stats: it's the intangibles".





  13. #163

    Re: Why does Mcnair get a free pass?

    I got that picture from another forum. I've been dying to use it here.

    If your looking at a point in time where I became discouraged and vocal about Boller, it was after the home Bengals game (2004). I could no longer keep a straight face when defending him.
    And I'll never understood that for two reasons. Everyone praises McNair for going downfield and making Stover kick his leg off to win the game. In fact, the cameras didn't pick up Stover hopping 100 yards downfield to go retrieve his kicking leg from the field. And that's great because we won.

    Yet, Baltimore is behind Cincinatti in the 4th quarter in much the same way, with the 2 minute warning coming up. Boller gets Stover in field goal range, and takes 4 minutes off the clock doing it. Stover then kicks what should have been the winning field goal with a simple 1:42 left in the game. Carson Palmer then drives on our defense 60 yards and they kick the winning FG, after taking a 8 yard sack on 1st down. Forget Will Demps for getting burned for 32 and 11 yards. And forget that 22 yard pass to Chad Johnson. Some people don't seem remember that drive. They just blame it on Boller.

    So my two questions remain.

    1) If the defense had stopped Cincinatti (and thereby we would have been in the playoffs), would that have affected your opinion? After all, if they stopped Cincy, then Boller would have on his previous drive gotten Stover in range to win the game, right?

    2) If Stover misses his 52 yard field goal, who would you have blamed for the loss at Cleveland last week?

    After those questions get answered, I'm out of this discussion as it is overly redundant and meaningless (not specifically with you Crazy, just in general).




  14. #164

    Re: Why does Mcnair get a free pass?

    So my two questions remain.

    1) If the defense had stopped Cincinatti (and thereby we would have been in the playoffs), would that have affected your opinion? After all, if they stopped Cincy, then Boller would have on his previous drive gotten Stover in range to win the game, right?
    During that season we got a lot out of the defense. They were winning games for the most part. That last FG by the ravens should have been a TD. It should have been a statement game for Boller, or as people have said in this very thread, the lights should have come on. That game was so important on so many levels but we let a win slip away at home against an up and coming team. Instead the offense with boller at the helm relied on the defense to hold the fort yet again. If that TD was made, the Game was over.

    Now had the defense held Cincy--well that's just a hypothetical that clearly doesn't have anything to do with my opinion on Boller. Simply put, he really hadn't play well (except maybe the Jets game). It just got to the point were purple glasses just weren't working anymore or as Popeye would say, "That's all I can stands and I can't stands no more".



    2) If Stover misses his 52 yard field goal, who would you have blamed for the loss at Cleveland last week
    Stover made the FG. Mcnair drove the team down and put him in position (regardless of the length) to kick a winning FG. Stover has been solid for so many years but still he is a kicker and is suppose to make these types of pressure cooker kicks. Kickers are on the shortest leash so if they miss FGs they feel the heat.




  15. #165

    Re: Why does Mcnair get a free pass?

    Those were two very excellent non-answers Crazy.




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