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09-17-2006, 06:34 PM #13
Re: The Good And The Bad
As it has been noted, our kick coverage was awful today.
But this is Week 2, and we have a new QB. I'd much rather have the opportunity to continue working on existing problems while hopefully continuing to win with this classic Ravens formula than worrying about these problems in Week 10 or 13 or so.
the offense did what they had to do.
After the 3rd field goal when the offense started ON THE FREAKING OAKLAND 29, the next three posessions were 3 and outs for a total of......5 yards!! After the touchdown (which I again put squarely on Derrick Mason), we had two more 3 and outs to start our offense in the 3rd quarter for NEGATIVE 16 YARDS!! We had to punt 7 times today.
Don't get me wrong. A win is a win is a win, and we're 2-0. The Raiders are a team we were SUPPOSED to beat. But if we weren't playing the Raiders today, and we were playing a good team, I think we would have lost this one. The Bengals, Steelers, Colts, and half the NFC would have beaten us today. Even with our awesome defense.
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09-17-2006, 06:54 PM #14Pro Bowl Poster
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Re: The Good And The Bad
Originally Posted by StingerNLG
McNair doesn't seem to be on the same page as the receivers, with the exceptions of Mason and maybe Heap. I think this will improve as the season progresses, but right now, they don't appear to be in sync.
And I'm tired of bringing it up, but our pass protections still sucks.
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09-17-2006, 07:20 PM #15Regular 1st Stringer
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Re: The Good And The Bad
Originally Posted by StingerNLGThe Steelers: Still looking for a legit Super Bowl victory.
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09-17-2006, 07:34 PM #16
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Brooks was only in the game for the first half of the first quarter, but I agree with your point
This is the NFL nobody plays great every week. If we had scored a couple of more TD's in the first half how would that have guaranteed that we'd win next week? One game doesn't portend how we're going to play the following week. We could go into Cleveland and whip their ass or lay an egg, who knows? If Flynn doesn't hold on the first TD run we'd have a completely different perception on how we played. We'd be talking about a 32-6 win with 3 offensive TD's.
If Flynn doesn't hold. I know, we all know. If Ogden isn't ineligible downfield on the TD shovel in Cleveland we win that game. It's always "well, if the OL didn't do this", or "if Pashos just didn't hold on that play".
Many of us just didn't walk out of M&T today with that warm and fuzzy feeling. We were happy for the win of course. But talking to people as we were walking to our cars, the concern was definitely there.
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09-17-2006, 07:34 PM #17Regular 1st Stringer
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Re: The Good And The Bad
Originally Posted by darb72
I'm not panicing after 2 games but McNair looked bad. No thanks in part to a big old helping of Flynn & Company. For now I'll hope McNair is still learning the offense and by the quarter pole he won't be posting 50% completion rates.
On the plus side, the 2 minute offense looked decent for the first time since Billick arrived!! :D
FHRaven
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09-17-2006, 07:39 PM #18
Re: The Good And The Bad
Originally Posted by PurpleRulz''You'd love to go on the first day but I'm glad for the situation I'm in,'' he said. ''Baltimore knows how to play defense.''
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09-17-2006, 07:41 PM #19
Re: The Good And The Bad
On a slightly positive OT note: The QB that everyone THOUGHT we were going to get, Kerry Collins, looked like absolute GARBAGE today.
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09-17-2006, 08:54 PM #20Pro Bowl Poster
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I will stand by my assessment of the STs. While there were coverage issues, for this to be the second week of the regular season, they are playing well. Most of my overall assessment for ST is based on Koch and Sams who both were very good today. Folks, remember that our unit is learning a new scheme from a new ST coach.
Camdenyard, I was watching the same game you watched. Did you see the TD run by Anderson? Did you see Musa running over the defenders leading to MA's run? Did you notice Jamal's 70 yards rushing? As a UNIT, our RBs are beast, and they did this with the OL stinking horribly today. I stand by my assessment.
Stinger, I understand where you are coming from, but McNair is learning the system and will get better. To borrow Angelos's phrase, Stinger, "I know you heard that tune before," but we have not had a QB with McNair's talent to place faith in. Besides, if Boller is starting, we probably lose today. It is one thing to have the faith that a young raw QB will develop, but another thing to hope that an alltime QB great will come around. We haven't seen the best of McNair yet.
RF2K6, Oglesby did tip that pass to Thomas, but he was getting torched as well. I'd rather go with Ronnie Prude and Corey Ivy and place Evan back on the PS, and then sign a RT.
Whose available to sign as a RT?It's a new season! It's a new day!
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09-17-2006, 09:25 PM #21
Re: The Good And The Bad
Stinger, I understand where you are coming from, but McNair is learning the system and will get better. To borrow Angelos's phrase, Stinger, "I know you heard that tune before," but we have not had a QB with McNair's talent to place faith in. Besides, if Boller is starting, we probably lose today. It is one thing to have the faith that a young raw QB will develop, but another thing to hope that an alltime QB great will come around. We haven't seen the best of McNair yet.
The problem again wasn't just McNair's throws, although 50% passing for 143 with 1TD/1INT is not that good. But penalties and lack of blocking by the offensive line, players dropping balls (Wilcox), all adds up. And once again it's the defense that keeps the game firmly in hand.
I just think after all this time, I want to see the offense operate different for more than one week before I believe that now our 8th new QB makes this offense better. I'm starting to believe it's the philosophy that has to change, which will facilitate other player changes.
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09-17-2006, 09:33 PM #22Pro Bowl Poster
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Re: The Good And The Bad
Originally Posted by StingerNLG
Looks like our offensive leaders agree with you. See my other thread.It's a new season! It's a new day!
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09-17-2006, 09:34 PM #23
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I just did. I'm glad JO is speaking up. He's got to be frustrated too!
You've known me a good while now PR. You know I've complained about the offensive as a whole while everyone else on the old board blamed the entire thing on Boller. Now with a brand new former MVP QB, we're still seeing the exact same offensive. And today, it really was like watching a carbon copy of other games the last few years, Boller and even before that. And that is frustrating. And I know there are people out there, like Gary Stein and his hissy fit today on the radio that we can't compare Boller to McNair because McNair was this and that and so on. Well, on the other hand, shouldn't a QB of McNair's calibur, no matter what the offense, be able to complete more than 50% of his passes for 3.6YPA?
That's why until the offense can prove otherwise to me, I still see the same thing. And it's a shame because if this does keep up, and I pray it doesn't, we will have taken yet another great QB from another team and reduced him to rubble. I don't want to see that again, but I'm not excited about the prospects yet.Last edited by StingerNLG; 09-17-2006 at 09:40 PM.
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09-17-2006, 09:58 PM #24
Re: The Good And The Bad
The Good and The Bad?
Defense: Good
Offense: Bad
That about sums it up.
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