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04-02-2007, 07:49 AM #37
Re: Ravens Overpaid For McGahee
I love ozzie and trust him fully. He always find a gem somehow. Another good draft this year. and willis will be a upgrade with our now younger line. I just hope it dont take long for everyone to gel. O lineman in the first and maybe luke gertsy something the qb from arkon in the late rounds. I think he is a very smart kid. Could be a gem, who knows.
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04-02-2007, 08:36 AM #38Veteran Poster
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Re: Ravens Overpaid For McGahee
Did Todd Heap "cost" us a 1st round pick?
No.
Did Ray Lewis "cost" us a 1st round pick?
NO.
Jesush H. Christ.
The cost is what you pay.
We paid the Patriots a 2nd round pick. That's it. Period.
I swear, this is bordering on the ridiculous.
You are talkin about the results of the Boller pick as "cost".
Sure, the Boller pick was crappy (IMO) but doesn't change the facts of what we gave up to get the pick.
Im sure your PM box is gonna fill up quickly.
PP
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04-02-2007, 09:54 AM #39
Re: Ravens Overpaid For McGahee
Did Todd Heap "cost" us a 1st round pick?
No.
Did Ray Lewis "cost" us a 1st round pick?
NO.
Jesush H. Christ.
Lets look at this in the simpliest terms. A draft pick is worth something. Depending on the round its worth more, the 1st round being the highest, you know like a 100 dollar bill is worth more than say a 50 dollar bill or a fiver.
You can call me a douche bag, ridicoulous, trying to make this about me, etc etc but the fact is still the same and no matter how you try to spin it BOLLER COST US A 1st and 2nd.
I'll ask the question again that seemed to have been glossed over, would you do a trade like that again where you sit out the following season? Funny how that was avoided.
Sure, the Boller pick was crappy (IMO) but doesn't change the facts of what we gave up to get the pick.
Now considering the results of the players. You brought up Todd heap, we just used one pick for him. Did We overpaid for him compared to Boller? I'd ask you about Ray but that would be totally unfair.WOW! I feel so fortunate that the Ravens did what they had to do to make this happen. Thank you. My Heart is with the Raven....My Heart is with Baltimore and its great fans. What can I say. Here We Go!!! --Ray Lewis
No, Thank you Ray... :ww:
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04-02-2007, 10:32 AM #40
Re: Ravens Overpaid For McGahee
Ok, if noone else will, I'll post on the subject at hand.... namely Mcgahee. If you use the "point system", we paid a whole lot less than was paid for Jones from chicago... I think tht Mcgahee will pan out to be a better trade. Therefore, Mcgahee seems like a good, solid trade!
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04-02-2007, 10:43 AM #41
Re: Ravens Overpaid For McGahee
Ok, if noone else will, I'll post on the subject at hand.... namely Mcgahee. If you use the "point system", we paid a whole lot less than was paid for Jones from chicago... I think that Mcgahee will pan out to be a better trade. Therefore, Mcgahee seems like a good, solid trade!
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04-02-2007, 10:48 AM #42
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04-02-2007, 07:24 PM #43Veteran Poster
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Re: Ravens Overpaid For McGahee
LOL.
OK dude. If something is given to you (i.e. a pick in each round) you don't pay for it.
The Ravens decided they wanted Boller. So they paid the Patriots a 2nd round pick and swapped 1st rounders. The net loss, in picks, was ONE. In fact, since the Ravens made the playoffs in 2003, the pick they used for Boller was higher than the pick NE got from us in the 2004 draft.
You can never "overpay" for a player picked with a pick that's been issued by the NFL because nothing was given up.
We didn't "overpay" for Patrick Johnson. He was just a bust pick. But we didn't give anything up to get him. We simply used the pick issued to us by the NFL to take him.
McGahee "cost" us 3 picks.
Boller "cost" us 1 pick.
Again, it's very simple.
You may say that Heap "cost" us a 1st rounder. Or Ray. Or JO.
You are the ONLY person I've ever heard say that.
If Boller truly "cost" us a 1st and 2nd rounder, then NE would've had our 04 and 05 1st rounders along with the 03 second rounder. With us getting their 03 first rounder, the above scenario would be a loss of 2 draft picks.
PP
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04-02-2007, 10:03 PM #44
Re: Ravens Overpaid For McGahee
OK dude. If something is given to you (i.e. a pick in each round) you don't pay for it.
PP the people who put the web vote on the home page and inside this thread think the ravens gave up a 1st and 2nd. Look on the front page and look at the very first post. I'm not the only one.
BTW You Still havent answered my question.....WOW! I feel so fortunate that the Ravens did what they had to do to make this happen. Thank you. My Heart is with the Raven....My Heart is with Baltimore and its great fans. What can I say. Here We Go!!! --Ray Lewis
No, Thank you Ray... :ww:
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04-02-2007, 10:14 PM #45Veteran Poster
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Re: Ravens Overpaid For McGahee
Good lord.
We traded a 1st and and 2nd for a 1st.
The 1st rounder turned out to be Boller.
The net loss in the trade was a 2nd round pick. That is FACT. I repeat, A FACT.
You're BS about a slap in the face to the fans is so completely not relavent it's hilarious.
As I stated before, the Ravens actually had a better pick at 19 than they would've in 2004 because we went 10-6 and made the playoffs in 2003.
What question? About Heap.
We took Heap with the last pick of the 1st round or something? Great pick. It has nothing to do with the topic of the Boller trade.
Really, this is pointless now.
Anyone who knows what they are talking about knows that Boller cost us a 2nd round pick. It's what the team LOST in order to aquire him.
You're tangents about him being a bad pick are just that. Tangents.
If we truly traded a 1st and a second for Boller, than we would have lost 2 draft picks. But we didn't, we lost one. And that was the 2nd rounder in 2003.
I could really care less what the person posted in a web poll. It's stated incorrectly.
If I went on what everyone else on these boards think, we'd of traded Ray, cut Cmac, let Boller play instead of getting McNair, and fired Billick.
PPLast edited by purplepoe; 04-02-2007 at 10:54 PM.
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04-02-2007, 11:04 PM #46
Re: Ravens Overpaid For McGahee
If I went on what everyone else on these boards think, we'd of traded Ray, cut Cmac, let Boller play instead of getting McNair, and fired Billick.
You're tangents about him being a bad pick are just that. Tangents.
we could go in circles for days here. the fact is Boller = 1draft pick we traded a second our second round...thats two picks. Ray lewis, heap JO....one pick. Get it. its an easy concept. that 2nd round bs is just lip service to prepare the masses for sitting out the following year, some how it still stuck in the back of a few stubborn little heads. If you cant get the math you will never get it. Truth is I wont let up either.
What question? About Heap.
If we just lost a second round pick, would you make such a move again in the future? According to you Its just a second round pick. right?
We took Heap what 30 or something? Great pick. It has nothing to do with the topic of the Boller trade.
Somehow, in your thick head, it does.WOW! I feel so fortunate that the Ravens did what they had to do to make this happen. Thank you. My Heart is with the Raven....My Heart is with Baltimore and its great fans. What can I say. Here We Go!!! --Ray Lewis
No, Thank you Ray... :ww:
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04-03-2007, 08:04 AM #47Veteran Poster
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04-03-2007, 08:57 AM #48
Re: Ravens Overpaid For McGahee
What's done is done. We're stuck with Boller for one more year and then hopefully we won't have to talk about him anymore.WOW! I feel so fortunate that the Ravens did what they had to do to make this happen. Thank you. My Heart is with the Raven....My Heart is with Baltimore and its great fans. What can I say. Here We Go!!! --Ray Lewis
No, Thank you Ray... :ww:
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