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  1. #16

    Re: Are fans down on McGahee already?



    Quote Originally Posted by Mista T View Post
    I don't know why you're excited, FanMan. I'm not "down" on McGahee per se, but I am again disappointed in our FO for overpaying in major trades for two years in a row. Until he demonstartes otherwise, I consider McGahee to be just average RB. I am not expecting to see improvement from RB unless Mike Anderson gets more carries and/or if Musa Smith can play healthy.
    What? Huh? Overpaid? How? In draft picks? The 93rd, and the 221rst this year? And a 90th (guess) next year?. Would we get a rb of his caliber at any of those positions? Uh, No!...... Will he perform better w/ the ravens than the Bills? Better'n Jamal? Uh,.... YES!




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    Re: Are fans down on McGahee already?

    Quote Originally Posted by HARRYOS29 View Post
    Willis... birth control...
    Momma say, They gurlz fooled him ta thinking they was takin' birth control, so they could have willis baby, 'n get his dollahs!




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    Re: Are fans down on McGahee already?

    Quote Originally Posted by festivus View Post
    Welcome aboard, Harry!
    I'm excited for McGahee because he runs out of one back sets. I expect he'll be more productive then Jamal but more importantly you've essentially replaced Ovie Mughelli with Demetrius Williams.
    Amen to that Festivus.

    I'm jazzed about it myself. I think only part of what he actually does will the the big boost the the O. Remember, using something different than the I formation and still being able to run every once in a while opens up a lot of options to the O.

    I think if we add a few more play options (someone mentioned screens) etc it will improve offensive production by leaps and bounds. And it all does not need to be on Willis' shoulders. The threat of him, balanced on our young, up and coming WRs along with a QB who keeps his cool should make for a better balanced and more productive offense than we have seen in a long time (if ever).
    Keeping the purple flowing way out on the West Coast!




  4. #19

    Re: Are fans down on McGahee already?

    I am def excited about seeing what WM can do if he stays healthy. I see him a RB that can turn the corner...where Jamal had lost that ability 2 years ago. Welcome aboard Willis....I am looking forward to seeing "what you're talkin' bout" come game day.

    FM




  5. #20

    Re: Are fans down on McGahee already?

    Quote Originally Posted by festivus View Post
    I expect he'll be more productive then Jamal but more importantly you've essentially replaced Ovie Mughelli with Demetrius Williams.
    This was the second-most reason I was excited about this trade. Williams is going to be on the field much much more often and I am very excited to see what he can do with more playing time as much as I am excited to see McGahee be able to catch and run outside the tackles.




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    Re: Are fans down on McGahee already?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rochardrik View Post
    Momma say, They gurlz fooled him ta thinking they was takin' birth control, so they could have willis baby, 'n get his dollahs!
    Agreed! He needs to learn to wrap things up.




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    Re: Are fans down on McGahee already?

    I am extremely happy with getting McGahee. I was a huge fan of his when at Miami. He is a big upgrade over Jamal at this time in Jamal's career.

    I don't think we overpaid for him. Look at the Matt Schaub trade...that's over paying!




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    Re: Are fans down on McGahee already?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mista T View Post
    I don't know why you're excited, FanMan. I'm not "down" on McGahee per se, but I am again disappointed in our FO for overpaying in major trades for two years in a row. Until he demonstartes otherwise, I consider McGahee to be just average RB. I am not expecting to see improvement from RB unless Mike Anderson gets more carries and/or if Musa Smith can play healthy.
    Some things never change




  9. #24

    Re: Are fans down on McGahee already?

    mista t, i'm confused how we overpaid?

    We didn't trade away any picks for either McNair or McGahee that the FO didn't believe would be replaced with comp picks, except, perhaps, the third round pick this year (though, we did get 2 fourth round comps).

    We basically traded nothing for McNair and a third round pick for McGahee (we'll have a 3rd round comp next year, book it)




  10. #25

    Re: Are fans down on McGahee already?

    I think many of us who follow the Ravens closely in the offseason are excited as are those of us who are overall pro and college football fans because we know what Willis brings to the table from his college days in Miami and his first active year in Buffalo. I'm sure we'll see the rest of the fans warm up to Willis when they see his abilities on the field and hear/read more about him during camp, exhibition games and early part of the regular season.

    Its hard to compare the McGahee trade to the hoopla surrounding the McNair trade last year, because fans were more familiar with McNair being a 10+ year pro from a team formerly in the same division that we still somewhat consider a rival. McGahee probably played the Ravens head to head 2 or 3 times but really didn't have any memorable moments against the Ravens, while we all probably saw McNair play the Ravens 15 - 20 times and twice in the playoffs and I know I found myself cussing him more times than I care to remember.




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    Re: Are fans down on McGahee already?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mista T View Post
    I am again disappointed in our FO for overpaying in major trades for two years in a row.
    I know you are a McNair-hater, T, but how can you say we overpaid for him in the trade? We essentially just traded down 6 spots in the 4th round to get him, plus we get an extra 4th rounder on top of that.

    As for McGahee, chances are very strong we get a 3rd rounder next year for the AD loss, so he essentially is costing us a 3rd rounder and 7th rounder this year. Not exactly breaking the bank.

    If you are talking about his contract, would you rather give all that money to Jamal? Or depend on Musa, who seems to be made of glass?

    McGahee's injury and attitude history has me concerned a bit, but I don't know how anyone who has followed this team as closely as you have can say we didn't just get a huge upgrade at RB.




  12. #27

    Re: Are fans down on McGahee already?

    I lost all respect for Jamal after this season when he bemoaned the bone spurs or chips he had and that was why he did not produce like he could have....he always has an excuse....Willis will be a nice change and we needed a change....the FO obviously does not think Mike Anderson suits our needs, so Willis comes into the fold. I agree that I look forward to passes out of the backfield to Willis. What would Mr. Drummond say?...haha




  13. #28

    Re: Are fans down on McGahee already?

    I thought Ozzie and the staff did an outstanding job bringing in a quality back to fill the void. We would have more than likely gotten Wm with lesser picks but the Titans entered in to the equation and Ozzie offered what he needed to seal the deal.

    Two thirds and a seventh for a starting caliber running back is not allot, especially when the third pick this season is the 92nd pick.

    I wouldn't worry too much about your neighbor or friends fretting about the Ravens picking up WM.

    These same fans more than likely said atleast some of the following;

    "We can't lose Phil Savage, he's the brains behind the Ravens"
    "Darn, the Browns signed Gary Baxter"
    "Who's going to play Linebacker now that Hartwell left?"
    "No, Ma'ake Kemoeatu signed with Carolina"
    "What are we going to do withouit Will Dermps?"
    "How will we replace Tony Weaver?"
    "McNair is old, he won't play a whole season, plus Ozzie gave him too much money"
    "Trevor Pryce is over the hill"
    "The offensive line needs rebuilding, quarterback isn't the problem"
    "What, the Browns signed Zastudil?"


    And so on.........

    Judging from past performance the Ravens front office deserves the benefit of the doubt until the move proves otherwise.
    Last edited by RustonRifle; 03-29-2007 at 01:13 PM.




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    Re: Are fans down on McGahee already?

    I'm in wait and see mode with McGahee. I loved him in college. I don't love his production in Buffalo. There are many factors that could have caused the poor production (poor o-line, 8-9 guys in the box, Willis not wanting to be there) so he may look a heck of a lot better in purple. But I want to see it first.

    What we gave up to get him and the contract that is essentially a 4 year deal are both fine if he gives us bare minimum 1500 combined yards (rushing and recieving) and 8 TDs.

    I'd like to see at least 1600-1700 combined and 10-12 TDs.




  15. #30

    Re: Are fans down on McGahee already?

    I'm ecstatic about the Diff'rent Strokes Ozzie took to bring Willis to B-More!
    He's a gamebreaker, folks and he has two of his fellow Hurricane idols (Ray and Ed) in the locker room to mentor and fuel his competitive fires...

    This kid will be a beast provided our line is anywhere near where they were last season... Once that vertical game opens up as a result, it's up, up and away for our side of the scoreboard...I think I'll order my #23 McGahee jersey today!

    UNLEASH THE BEASTS!!!!




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