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  1. #31
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    Re: Are fans down on McGahee already?



    I've got my 52 and 20 Jerseys... My Wife has 86... I may get an offensive jersey yet... that is unless my wife ands up getting a 23 first.
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    Re: Are fans down on McGahee already?

    Quote Originally Posted by RustonRifle View Post
    These same fans more than likely said atleast some of the following;

    "We can't lose Phil Savage, he's the brains behind the Ravens"
    "Darn, the Browns signed Gary Baxter"
    "Who's going to play Linebacker now that Hartwell left?"
    "No, Ma'ake Kemoeatu signed with Carolina"
    "What are we going to do withouit Will Dermps?"
    "How will we replace Tony Weaver?"
    "McNair is old, he won't play a whole season, plus Ozzie gave him too much money"
    "Trevor Pryce is over the hill"
    "The offensive line needs rebuilding, quarterback isn't the problem"
    "What, the Browns signed Zastudil?"


    And so on.........

    Judging from past performance the Ravens front office deserves the benefit of the doubt until the move proves otherwise.
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    Re: Are fans down on McGahee already?

    Just ordered my McGahee #23 jersey on NFL dot com!

    It will be delivered by the middle of next month!! WOOHOO!

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    Re: Are fans down on McGahee already?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fanman View Post
    I spoke w/ several Ravens fans at work recently and I seem to be the only one excited about getting Willis McGahee. What is the feedback others have seen since the trade? I expected fans to be very happy about it, but that doesn't seem to be the case so far. Is it just me?

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    You are talking about Baltimore fans. We will find some reason to be unhappy even if it is obsessing over things that happened 23 years ago that no one living outside of Baltimore, or was born after 1975, cares about anymore.
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    Re: Are fans down on McGahee already?

    Hey, I live in California... and was born in 75... I care...

    Oh wait... I'm a Baltimore fan...


    But I'm still jazzed about Willis! I think he is gonna rock!
    Yay!
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  6. #36

    Re: Are fans down on McGahee already?

    Quote Originally Posted by RavensNTerps View Post
    mista t, i'm confused how we overpaid?

    We didn't trade away any picks for either McNair or McGahee that the FO didn't believe would be replaced with comp picks, except, perhaps, the third round pick this year (though, we did get 2 fourth round comps).

    We basically traded nothing for McNair and a third round pick for McGahee (we'll have a 3rd round comp next year, book it)

    Im confused as well,if you look at the contract it is basically a 4 yr deal for $20million.How that is overpaying I will never know,and as we have discussed those draft picks arent worth as much as you might think.Being that we pick at the end of the round,one is for next year(which lowers the value a round) and the 7th rounder is literally worth NOTHING we gave up the equivalent of a late 3rd rounder for the guy.

    Pretty cheap for a RB in his prime that has a LOT of tread left on the tires.




  7. #37

    Re: Are fans down on McGahee already?

    I'm not down on McGahee, but I can't say I'm excited either. I am still hesitant about the O-Lines run blocking...

    Hopefully Willis will hit the hole faster than Jamal did...

    I guess with 3 kids, Willis has shown he's pretty good at hitting holes...




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    Unhappy Re: Are fans down on McGahee already?

    Quote Originally Posted by purplepoe View Post
    Never happy are you Ted?

    Sometimes I think you'd rather go 9-7 or 8-8 and stay way under the cap then compete for a Super Bowl.
    Dumbass comment, PP.

    I don't think that McGahee is going to make much difference as to being a SB competitor. He's an upgrade to Jamal, but not by much.

    As to staying under the cap, that's not the McGahee issue. It's surrendering so many draft picks when we will needs many in the upcoming years to sustain this aging team.


    Quote Originally Posted by Losac View Post
    I know you are a McNair-hater, T, but how can you say we overpaid for him in the trade?
    Cheap shot ... I'm disappointed in you too, Losac. I didn't bring McNair into this discussion - you did. And I don't "hate" anyone wearing purple. No one roots louder than I do for the 11 guys wearing purple.

    My disdain is aimed at the front office for the damage done to our cap by overpaying for an old & average QB, and, to a lesser extent, to depleting our stock of draft picks to attain an average RB. Our losses due to overpaying McNair have been substantial, and now, due to the McGahee trade, it will be difficult to repackage multiple mid round picks to trade up for some quality rookies.

    You can debate the term "average" all you want. McNair ranked 14th in QB rating, and McGahee ranked 34th in rushing average & 24th in rushing yards.

    I'd have been happier going into 2008 with Boller and Mike Anderson/Musa/rookie in the backfield, and most of Adalius Thomas, Ed Mulitalo, Ovie Mughelli, Tony Pashos, plus a good number of mid round picks.

    Nonetheless, when McNair hands off to McGahee, I will cheer wildly.
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    Re: Are fans down on McGahee already?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mista T View Post
    Cheap shot ... I'm disappointed in you too, Losac. I didn't bring McNair into this discussion - you did. And I don't "hate" anyone wearing purple. No one roots louder than I do for the 11 guys wearing purple.

    My disdain is aimed at the front office for the damage done to our cap by overpaying for an old & average QB, and, to a lesser extent, to depleting our stock of draft picks to attain an average RB. Our losses due to overpaying McNair have been substantial, and now, due to the McGahee trade, it will be difficult to repackage multiple mid round picks to trade up for some quality rookies.

    You can debate the term "average" all you want. McNair ranked 14th in QB rating, and McGahee ranked 34th in rushing average & 24th in rushing yards.

    I'd have been happier going into 2008 with Boller and Mike Anderson/Musa/rookie in the backfield, and most of Adalius Thomas, Ed Mulitalo, Ovie Mughelli, Tony Pashos, plus a good number of mid round picks.

    Nonetheless, when McNair hands off to McGahee, I will cheer wildly.
    Sorry if it came off like a cheap shot - not my intention. I brought up McNair because you mentioned how you didn't like how the FO overpaid in a major trade 2 years in a row. I assumed the major trades you were alluding to were McNair last year and McGahee this year.

    I disagree that Ozzie depleted our draft picks with those trades. We did get two 4th rounders this year, which cancels out what we gave up to get McNair. As for McGahee, I really do think we will get a 3rd round comp pick next year, so he is essentially costing us a 3rd rounder and 7th rounder. The 2 4th rounders make me feel a little better about losing this year's 3rd, because no one is better at finding late round gold than Ozzie.

    Obviously the coaching staff was not confident with a Mike Anderson/Musa Smith tandem. Musa needs to stay healthy for an entire year before we can really rely on him as more than just a backup. Mulitalo? Great guy, but the line needs to get younger. Pashos and Mughelli are replaceable. AD hurts, I'll give you that - but I'm confident Rex will adjust his schemes to compensate for his loss.




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    Re: Are fans down on McGahee already?

    Quote Originally Posted by jonboy79 View Post
    How anyone can look at McGahee as anything but a BIG, Ginormous upgrade over Jamal is beyond me. ]
    In fairness, his YPC isn't that much better than Tap Dancing Jamal. I'll conceed he has more potential, but potential is just another word for "ain't done shit."




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    Re: Are fans down on McGahee already?

    Quote Originally Posted by FadeToBlack View Post
    In fairness, his YPC isn't that much better than Tap Dancing Jamal. I'll conceed he has more potential, but potential is just another word for "ain't done shit."
    If he generates the same yards per carry as Jamal, but from one back sets rather than the I formation, that by itself is a huge upgrade to our passing game.
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