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03-08-2007, 05:12 PM #1
Ring of Honor poll
Here are your two candidates.
Jamal Lewis
Edwin Mulitalo
Give 'em a orFestivus
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03-08-2007, 05:21 PM #2
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Jamal Lewis
Edwin Mulitalo
Sometimes it not only about what you do on the field but the contribution to make to society and the community in which you live, that is one of the main reasons I give Jamal a thumbs down.
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03-08-2007, 05:21 PM #3
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Jamal Lewis
Edwin Mulitalo... They shall mount up with wings as Eagles;
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03-08-2007, 05:22 PM #4
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Edwin should get a big . Ring of Honor is about two things: playing time/success in Baltimore, and what you do in the community. Edwin may not be a HOF LG, but he certainly manned a dominant left side with JO and had some good success here. Also, Big Ed's Band was a huge thing in the area and the guy was on KMS this morning saying, unless something drastic changes, he's coming back to Baltimore when he retires.
Jamal, to be honest, I have to give a to right now. Yes, he's the franchise's leading rusher and he had that HUGE season, but really, he had three big years here, and three just ok years. And, unless I missed it, he contributed nothing to the community except that stupid mess in 2004 with the cell phone. He can be a great player but I haven't seen enough from him yet to merit him being one of our greats. I'd only change it if he ends up coming back later in his career..
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03-08-2007, 05:30 PM #5
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Jamal Lewis:
Edwin Mulitalo:
Earnest Byner:
If Jamal had given us 5-6 productive seasons, maybe he'd deserve such an honor. Instead he gave us a couple good years, a few poor ones, a couple seriously injured ones, and an embarrassing prison sentence. Pass.
As for Mule, it would be nice to be sentimental and honor him, but I think that Ring should belong to people who were outstanding on the field as well as off. Mulitalo has been outstanding off the field and above average on it. He's been a quality component of the Ravens but not one of its stars, and without his play our teams would have been much the same.
Of the current Ravens, assuming they continue having productive careers in the city of Baltimore, I would make a case for Ray Lewis (lock), Jonathan Ogden (lock), Ed Reed, Todd Heap, Chris McAlister, and Matt Stover. Other than those six, none of our players have distinguished themselves enough to enter the conversation. There are young players who could get on this list with continued outstanding play (Suggs, Clayton, Ngata), there are older players who are superstars but haven't been Ravens for most of their careers (McNair, Pryce, Mason), and there are solid performers who I love having on the Ravens but can't label as elite (Gregg, Scott).
Mulitalo, for me, fell into that final category. Worthy of commendation, but not of honoring forever.
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03-08-2007, 06:04 PM #6Pro Bowl Poster
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No one asked about Earnest Byner. He is already in the ROH.
Both Jamal and Mule get a
We would not have won the SB without both.It's a new season! It's a new day!
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03-08-2007, 08:34 PM #7
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Being a "Jamal pimper" you may not believe this, but I don't think he even gets consideration for the ROH. So I'll say to that one. (Although I would think he deserves it more than Earnest Byner, since somebody brought it up)
Edwin on the other hand? There should not even be a discussion. There ARE FEW Ravens who are/were willing to do for the community AND team what he has done. You need to remember that the ROH is not only the teams, but it is OURS as well. It is a link to the community, which Edwin has represented like no other Raven ever has. The ROH for Edwin should be about one of the easiest decisions they could make. Yes his play as a guard was above average. HOF? I can't say. I don't know about the other guards in the HOF to even venture a guess. ROH? No brainer to me. So with that I saySS
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03-08-2007, 08:47 PM #8
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None?
If anyone gets it, it will be J. Lewis only because of his 2000 yard season, but thats the only way it would happen.
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03-08-2007, 08:54 PM #9
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I agree with Ravenatic20. Both players were very good, and did a lot to help this team win a championship. They both are not on that ROH level for me. When you think ROH you think about cornerstone players for this franchise, guys like Ray Lewis and Ogden.
Of course both Jamal and Edwin deserve it more than Byner.
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03-09-2007, 10:50 AM #10
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I pretty much agree with this, mainly because I believe the Ring should be reserved for the best of the best (yes, I know Byner's in there, and every August when the first preseason game arrives, I look to see if his name has somehow been quietly removed).
To me, Edwin, while a great guy and solid player doesn't rise to that level. Heck, he never even went to a Pro-Bowl.
Jamal, on the other hand, is a very close call. If not for the 2000 yard season, he's not even close IMO, but because of that season, I think I'd put him in.
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03-09-2007, 11:00 AM #11
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I love Ed but he does not warrant a place in the ring of honor. Even if we use the criteria of both on AND off the field accomplishments, Ed simply has not performed well enough on the field to demand this accolade.
As for Jamal, I'm on the fence. If we hold him to the same off the field standards as we are with Mule, then, no, he is not deserving. However, his ON field performance has been wonderful since we drafted him in 2000. Either way, it's a tough call, but for now I will say no on Jamal too.
After players leave, it's usually difficult to set aside the pain/disappointment of their loss and look back clearly on their careers with unbiased views. Let's give this debate a year or two and revisit it then.
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03-08-2007, 09:17 PM #12
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Jamal, maybe. Not Ed.
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