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    Quote Originally Posted by Art-Florida View Post
    We have holes to fill in the draft and we just lost 1/3 of our first-day budget. We blew a wad on McNair and are about to enter the land of Deja vu. .
    Ok we used one first day pick this year on one of our biggest holes. How does that take us a step backwards this year? The third we lost for next year will be supplemented by AD's compensation. Quick question, who is the best Raven that is still a Raven and was drafted by us in rd 3?




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    Re: McGahee a Raven

    Quote Originally Posted by Art-Florida View Post
    Somebody hand me a phillips cause I think we just got screwed. Yeah, yeah, I know, the 'Wizard of Oz' and all that crap, but what was Ozzie thinking?

    A third AND another one next year? The Bills wanted Willis out and might have settled for a lot less. That's not the main reason I feel like Han Solo when he said, "I have a bad feeling about this." We have holes to fill in the draft and we just lost 1/3 of our first-day budget. We blew a wad on McNair and are about to enter the land of Deja vu.


    One can only hope that Willis leaves his atitude in New York state, and picks up the yardage that Jamal left on the field the pas few years. I certainly hope I am wrong on this one.

    I feel the same way, but am getting over it. I do trust the Oz-Man and that he knows best.
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    I really like this trade and the potential of seeing our running game take flight. Too many times this season I saw holes open and close as Jamal danced in front of them. It was hard for many ravens fans to accept that he had lost the burst we saw during his 2000 yard season, but I have been hoping that the FO would decide to take our running game in a new direction from the day they finally cut Jamal. I was hoping that Ozzie would get this deal worked out with the Bills and Drew Rosenhaus so that we could add some explosiveness to our offense. I think this addition adds quite a bit to our total offense, having an explosive threat in the running game open s up the passing game for McNair even more and now that we have three definite threats at receiver I see lots more points and yards going up on the board for us next season. I hope that we can make a few adjustments to the line, especially at Center and right Guard. I am uncertain about Terry at RT, but was surprised at the success he had at LT while JO was out, so that gives me optimism at his potential at RT. I think our weak spots on the line remain Flynn and Vincent - let Brown, Chester have a shot at the position and hopefully a new draft selection can make an impact on the line as well at either guard or tackle if need be.




  4. #34

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    Quote Originally Posted by Art-Florida View Post
    We have holes to fill in the draft and we just lost 1/3 of our first-day budget.
    On filling one of those holes.

    Step back from the ledge and come back inside, Art, it's not as bad as you say. The only major hole left is at RT, and we'll find someone serviceable to take the place of Hall of Famer Tony Pashos, you'll see.

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    http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm

    PFT is reporting that this deal is contingent on us signing Willis to a long term deal by March 13. So basically, based on this, this deal is not really official until this contract gets done and if it does not get done, the trade will not happen.

    Can someone elaborate.
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    Welcome to Baltimore Willis. Get your contract done so you can make a nice long stay.

    I'm a little skeptical about this, but the fact is we got a talented RB and filled a major need. For those of you thinking that Buffalo would take less, I'm sure they would have, if we were the only ones bidding. Factor in other teams like the Titans and the price goes up. To get him without spending a second was a very good deal. Obviously we'll have to see how big a hit we'll take on the contract side. Ozzie knows what he's doing and I expect good things.

    As previously mentioned, the most exciting part is that we'll have a RB who works well out of a three-receiver set without needing a fullback to clear the way. McGahee, Mason, Clayton, Williams, and Heap are a pretty solid set of skill players to have on the field at once.




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    Quote Originally Posted by PurpleRulz View Post
    http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm

    PFT is reporting that this deal is contingent on us signing Willis to a long term deal by March 13. So basically, based on this, this deal is not really official until this contract gets done and if it does not get done, the trade will not happen.

    Can someone elaborate.
    As I wrote in another thread - I am reasonably confident the deal is already basically in place, because that conversation would have informed the FO's maneuvers over the past few days.

    It is possible there are still wrinkles to work out but I expect it's basically done. Structuring the deal with Buffalo this way gives the Ravens a few more days to finish dealing with McGahee/Rosenhaus without worrying the Bills are going to deal McGahee to someone else.
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    Per Profootbaltalk.com:

    We're told that the Ravens and running back Willis McGahee are very close to agreeing on a seven-year deal worth $40.12 million.

    As we previously explained, McGahee will receive $7.5 million to sign, an initial option bonus of $6 million, and a second option bonus of $1.5 million. The salaries are $595,000 in 2007, $605,000 in 2008, $620,000 in 2009, $3.6 million in 2010, $6.0 million in 2011, $6.5 million in 2012, and $7.2 million in 2013.

    Since McGahee was due to earn $2.155 million in 2007, the deal is essentially a six-year extension worth $37.965 million.

    If the Ravens cut McGahee before the back-end salaries kick in, he will earn a total of $20.42 million over four years.




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    Re: McGahee a Raven

    Seems like a reasonable contract. BmoreRavor, maybe you can confirm something for me. If McGahee is cut early, we take a cap hit equivalent to his remaining signing bonus distributed over the length of the contract. Does that include option bonuses?

    Basically, it seems that the Ravens guaranteed McGahee's services for about four years. If we release him at any point beyond that, we will realize a cap savings rather than a cap hit, because his annual salary will be more than the remainder of his signing bonus. That's not precisely true if option bonus cap hits are also spread across the life of the contract.

    His cap number in 2008 will be high (600k salary + 6 mil bonus + about 1 mil signing bonus hit), but not crippling. The other years (up until 2011) he'll be a relative bargain.




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    My first concern when reading the details of this contract are as follows:
    If the bonus factors into the cap, I am worried about being able to resign Suggs and Bart in the next two years. I would hate for Bart or Suggs to go the way of AD. I know the Ravens FO has said signing Suggs is their #1 priority before this time next year, but I hope that we don't cripple ourselves in cap room by backloading too much. I think that with Bart's next deal he will be looking to see the $$$ like AD found and I honestly don't know if we will have it to keep him. I hope so, but we also will have to sign a corner, since Samari is spent and I believe Ronnie Prude's contract is up in '08, not sure about Cory Ivey's deal. Even if we sign another corner this year in the draft, we still have to find the cap room to sign and keep him, not to mention we have to have enough cap room to cultivate a QB to replace McNair in the next two years, Kyle's contract is up next year, so what will we do then?




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    That contract would have a reasonable cap hit for 3 years. that is essentially the same contract that Reed got.




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    Prude is coming off his first year...he's going to be here through 09 unless we cut or trade him.

    There's a lot of other things factoring into the cap coming up. JO might be retiring this year or next year, which would give us some MAJOR relief in money terms. Also, Ray's coming up on the end of his deal soon, and I get the feeling unless he comes down from his high demands, we may soon see a Ravens team without Mr Ray Ray!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Art-Florida View Post
    A third AND another one next year? The Bills wanted Willis out and might have settled for a lot less.
    I'm with Art on this -- I'm okay with picking up McGahee, but the price seems a little high. Two third round picks? This guy wasn't much better than Jamal last season. I almost always trust Ozzie, but two 3s and a 7 seems like more than we should have given up for this guy.

    But of course I'll be pulling for him like crazy.




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    Yeah, I'm in the same boat. He's definitely an upgrade, but an upgrade worth the price that he cost in both drafts pick and contract? That's a whole other story.




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