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    Re: Troy Smith Wants to be a Bownie



    Maybe...let me change my story a bit...

    I'll bet 100 dollars Troy Smith is not a starting QB in Week 1 of the 2010 season.

    Yeah, I could see us cutting ties with him and just using the tender as sort of "splashing the pot" to see if we can get something for him. I do think it's pretty telling that we 1) used the lowest tender possible on Smith instead of using a more expected 2nd round tender, which would likely make most teams fold their cards and 2) we reached out to Todd Collins. Moreso the first, but the 2nd kind've factors into it. I think more likely, we'd just have a quiet competition between Collins, Beck, and Smith for the 2 backup spots and at that point, either see if we can trade Smith or just cut him. More likely, just cut him because at that point, most teams will be smart enough to know we'd just cut him anyway.
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    Re: Troy Smith Wants to be a Bownie

    Troy overplayed his hand.

    Holmgren picked up Seneca Wallace .....

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...eneca-wallace/

    I say get rid of that distraction fast. Jettison Smith for anything you get.
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    Re: Troy Smith Wants to be a Bownie

    Not sure why we'd want a backup QB of a different mold than our starter. He's short and mobile and IIRC doesn't have a big arm, though I have to confess, it's been so long since I've thought much about him as a viable QB that I've kind of forgotten what his strengths might be. In any case, to me it makes a lot more sense to have your backup be as much of a clone of your starter as you can afford to have, so that if you need to put him in the game you have as little disruption to the rhythm and flow of your offense as possible. I don't see how going from a huge, mega-armed QB like Flacco to a short, running, pea-shooter-armed QB like Troy would be anything but a paradigm shift for the Ravens if it had to happen in mid-game.

    The only reason I think the Browns wouldn't want to make a deal with us for him is they're deathly afraid we'll turn that draft pick into a pro-bowl player who will beat their brains in for year after year and they'll never hear the end of it.




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    Re: Troy Smith Wants to be a Bownie

    Quote Originally Posted by NC Raven View Post

    The only reason I think the Browns wouldn't want to make a deal with us for him is they're deathly afraid we'll turn that draft pick into a pro-bowl player who will beat their brains in for year after year and they'll never hear the end of it.

    then they should give us their 2nd rounder and they are probably safe, if however we get their 5th or 6th rounder, then they should be very afraid. Robiskie or AD?
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    Re: Troy Smith Wants to be a Bownie

    His agent is a complete moron for airing this stuff out publically.

    Even though Troy may feel a certain way, you don't go out and first, make a trade request during the middle of a playoff run, and then in the offseason, make your client out to be pathetically desperate to play for a division rival.

    Troy needs to fire his agent and then get the hell out of Baltimore.




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    Re: Troy Smith Wants to be a Bownie

    Quote Originally Posted by NC Raven View Post
    Not sure why we'd want a backup QB of a different mold than our starter.
    The reason you'd want that is for a change of pace and/or trick plays, primarily. We ran some very successful plays with him under center in '08. The Flacco receiver play, anyone? Another advantage can be that if he has to come in and play, teams aren't prepared for him. If you have specific plays designed and practiced, the defense could be caught off-guard to help off-set the dramatic downgrade of going from a viable starter to a backup.

    Not saying that's what you want for sure or that Troy satisfies that as a good backup QB option, but there are reasons to want a backup in a different mold than the starter.

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    Re: Troy Smith Wants to be a Bownie

    Quote Originally Posted by Raveninwoodlawn View Post
    His agent is a complete moron for airing this stuff out publically.

    Even though Troy may feel a certain way, you don't go out and first, make a trade request during the middle of a playoff run, and then in the offseason, make your client out to be pathetically desperate to play for a division rival.

    Troy needs to fire his agent and then get the hell out of Baltimore.
    Ralph Cindrich has represented and represents a bunch of different NFL players.

    Have you ever heard him pull this stuff with any of them?

    The agent ultimately answers to the client. Troy Smith has shown since day 1 that he has a much higher opinion of himself than anyone else does.

    Sorry, but there's no way I believe Cindrich is behind this garbage. IMO he's doing what his client is instructing him to do.

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    When is passing camp? I would expect the Ravens to want to try out Todd Collins, or Derek Anderson, or TBD. If either player is successful, don't be surprised to see the Ravens merely hand Smith his walking papers, foregoing trying to hang on to try to snag a 6th or 7th rounder in a trade, just to get rid of the bad apple. No other GM appears willing to bite on a 5th, just like 3 years ago.

    btw: If I knew how to use "search" functions, I'd pull out the threads made shortly after Smith was drafted and then even after Flacco was drafted, where some predicted that Smith would take the starter's job and others predicted that he'd never earn an NFL starter's job and would ultimately be headed to the CFL.

    Quote Originally Posted by Raveninwoodlawn View Post
    His agent is a complete moron for airing this stuff out publically.

    Even though Troy may feel a certain way, you don't go out and first, make a trade request during the middle of a playoff run, and then in the offseason, make your client out to be pathetically desperate to play for a division rival.

    Troy needs to fire his agent and then get the hell out of Baltimore.
    I'm pretty sure that the agent is merely following Troy's instructions.
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    Re: Troy Smith Wants to be a Bownie

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    Jettison Smith for anything you get.
    At this point I don't think we'd get anything for him. It's cut or stick.




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    Re: Troy Smith Wants to be a Bownie

    What's his cap hit if we cut him? Can't be that much can it?

    Let him go wave his Heisman around and see who picks him up.

    I'd cut him now, tell him good luck with Cleveland and hope he finds his heart somewhere in the street there while he's unemployed.




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    Re: Troy Smith Wants to be a Bownie

    Quote Originally Posted by StingerNLG View Post
    What's his cap hit if we cut him? Can't be that much can it?

    Let him go wave his Heisman around and see who picks him up.

    I'd cut him now, tell him good luck with Cleveland and hope he finds his heart somewhere in the street there while he's unemployed.
    No cap hit at all Stinger!

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    Re: Troy Smith Wants to be a Bownie

    Quote Originally Posted by purplepoe View Post
    No cap hit at all Stinger!

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    Get the eff off my team Troy.




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    Re: Troy Smith Wants to be a Bownie

    I still wouldn't outright cut him yet. He's not really a distraction to anyone except the fans right now, he doesn't have a big contract...and he's worth more to us on this team than off...

    We cut him loose now, a team like the Steelers could bring him in and just grill him about our offense. And unlike a scrub we cut during final roster cuts, Troy would actually know the nitty gritties of our offense...

    If we hold onto him, we can try to trade him when another team has a starter go down and needs a good athletic backup. If no one does, THEN we cut him, when he's less liekly to get picked up for a "grilling of information"
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    Re: Troy Smith Wants to be a Bownie

    Quote Originally Posted by RavenScallywag View Post
    I still wouldn't outright cut him yet. He's not really a distraction to anyone except the fans right now, he doesn't have a big contract...and he's worth more to us on this team than off...

    We cut him loose now, a team like the Steelers could bring him in and just grill him about our offense. And unlike a scrub we cut during final roster cuts, Troy would actually know the nitty gritties of our offense...

    If we hold onto him, we can try to trade him when another team has a starter go down and needs a good athletic backup. If no one does, THEN we cut him, when he's less liekly to get picked up for a "grilling of information"
    Meh.

    This has been said for years.

    I just don't buy it.

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    Re: Troy Smith Wants to be a Bownie

    Guys getting picked up for knowledge is only useful if you have a guy studying a playbook in training camp. One month off the Superbowl there's no value in picking up said guy...a whole new offense could easily be installed in the off-season.

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