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    Re: Troy Smith Wants to be a Bownie



    Quote Originally Posted by Galen Sevinne View Post
    I have been a bit out of the loop with football since the season ended but why would the Browns want T. Smith? I mean, so, they then have Quinn, Anderson and Smith? All three have shown about a 10% upside and 90% downside after at least a couple years.

    I would think they would go for someone more proven or cut the losses and start over again but to pick up another known quantity that has really never shown true NFL ability seems pretty dumb.
    The most reasonable answer is that they don't have any interest.

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    Re: Troy Smith Wants to be a Bownie

    The Browns really have a thing for our trash, don't they? Let the dumpster-divers have him. It's like they've tried to build their team out of left over discarded parts -- like trying to build a brand new Porsche out of a few rusted scraps of metal left over from some old ones.




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    Re: Troy Smith Wants to be a Bownie

    Quote Originally Posted by Galen Sevinne View Post
    I have been a bit out of the loop with football since the season ended but why would the Browns want T. Smith? I mean, so, they then have Quinn, Anderson and Smith? All three have shown about a 10% upside and 90% downside after at least a couple years.

    I would think they would go for someone more proven or cut the losses and start over again but to pick up another known quantity that has really never shown true NFL ability seems pretty dumb.
    Very good chance Derek Anderson is just a cut waiting to happen. And I've heard that the Browns new FO does NOT like Brady Quinn much. Which is funny because he was originally the Cleveland native everyone was clamoring for Cleveland to get...

    Holmgren is actively looking for a QB to call his own. Troy could be interesting because I think Holmgren was interested in Seneca Wallace who I would say is very similar to Troy in skillset. But, I would think he would pursue Seneca before Troy.
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    Re: Troy Smith Wants to be a Bownie

    Quote Originally Posted by purplepoe View Post
    The most reasonable answer is that they don't have any interest.

    Everything we hear about Troy originates from Troy.

    Delusions of grandeur.
    I think it's funny that people here seem to generally think this, but think we might be able to get a 4th round pick for him.

    I would let Cleveland have him for literally any pick in the draft they would give me. Troy Smith has almost no value. To us, or to anyone.

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    Re: Troy Smith Wants to be a Bownie

    Quote Originally Posted by psuasskicker View Post
    I think it's funny that people here seem to generally think this, but think we might be able to get a 4th round pick for him.

    I would let Cleveland have him for literally any pick in the draft they would give me. Troy Smith has almost no value. To us, or to anyone.

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    We could use that super duper late pick on a kicker, which could have infinitely more value then Troy.




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    Re: Troy Smith Wants to be a Bownie

    Quote Originally Posted by psuasskicker View Post
    I think it's funny that people here seem to generally think this, but think we might be able to get a 4th round pick for him.

    I would let Cleveland have him for literally any pick in the draft they would give me. Troy Smith has almost no value. To us, or to anyone.

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    But ..... he knows our offense and our weaknesses, so I wouldn't want to give him a way to any team that we have to face twice a year. I would like something of value in return. I know it's the Browns, but I thought the same thing about the Bungles last year and they ended up beating us both times.

    I'd be surprised if the Bowns even want him. I think this is more of Troy wanting to go to Cleveland than Cleveland wanting Troy.
    Boh




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    Re: Troy Smith Wants to be a Bownie

    If he wants to go so bad let him. We could use that extra 5th to move up in the draft.




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    Re: Troy Smith Wants to be a Bownie

    Quote Originally Posted by jonboy79 View Post
    We could use that super duper late pick on a kicker, which could have infinitely more value then Troy.
    We could use that super duper late pick on you or me and have more value than Troy...

    Quote Originally Posted by BaltimoreBoh View Post
    But ..... he knows our offense and our weaknesses, so I wouldn't want to give him a way to any team that we have to face twice a year. I would like something of value in return. I know it's the Browns, but I thought the same thing about the Bungles last year and they ended up beating us both times.
    The Browns have a lot of our ex-players and play us twice every year. There's pretty much nothing Troy could give them that they don't already have.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dade View Post
    If he wants to go so bad let him. We could use that extra 5th to move up in the draft.
    If there's one draft you don't want to move up in, this is it. The talent pool is EXCEPTIONALLY deep this year. Maybe you move up to grab a guy that's taken a ridiculous fall. But if anything, we should probably be trying to acquire as many picks as possible in this draft. I'd love to see us move down from #25 into the early second round and pick up another 2nd or 3rd and a couple later picks. There are a ton of guys in this draft that look like they're gonna provide teams with great value, and with no absolutely glaring needs anymore, I'd love to grab as many picks as possible and just go BPA at every single one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RavenScallywag View Post
    Very good chance Derek Anderson is just a cut waiting to happen.
    I would like to see an outright competition for the 2nd and 3rd QB spots between Anderson, Collins, and Beck. Hopefully, we'll have enough QB quality and depth in 2010 to allow Flacco to sit out a few games if he's beaten up as he was last December/January.




    Quote Originally Posted by psuasskicker View Post
    I would let Cleveland have him for literally any pick in the draft they would give me. Troy Smith has almost no value. To us, or to anyone.
    A 6th or 7th would be a plus, if Cleveland won't waste its 5th on him.
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    Re: Troy Smith Wants to be a Bownie

    I know a lot of people think he is a good QB, but I am not sure why they feel that way. There is no evidence one way or the other. His agent speaks for him, and if he does not then Troy should shut him up. My feeling is we should let Troy start crawling his way to the Clowns.
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    Re: Troy Smith Wants to be a Bownie

    I don't think the Clowns really want him.
    Used to be there was a "Raven factor" with the Clowns where any of our personell had a higher priority. Across the years we probably could put together a team and most of the FO with Ravens and ex-Ravens they grabbed.
    But I really think those days have ended, Holmgren changing all that. In the past I'd be more concerned hearing the Clowns involved, these days it is just another team.

    Sure they would take him if we gave him away, but so would a bunch of other teams wanting to look at "the poor man's Michael Vick".

    We have heard the Cleveland area rumbling only from the player side, and it makes logical sense in that light (area familiarity, unsettled QB starter...)

    But this is a whole new regeime there, and I doubt if they'd pay much for unrealized paper potential, especially someone so resistant to translating his athleticism to another position.
    He could be a throw in as part of a draft day move, but I really think he won't get an offer out of our easily matching range. Now whether or not we match it or take the pick still has too many variables (dollars and how high/low of a 5th).
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    Re: Troy Smith Wants to be a Bownie

    It may not be a good idea for him to crawl all the way to Cleveland, I mean that long exposed in the elements wading through countless bacteria and germs. He would run the risk of getting sick and who knows, might lose any chance he has of being a starter there.
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  13. #28

    Re: Troy Smith Wants to be a Bownie

    browns just brought in Seneca Wallace... unlikely Troy will go there...




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    Re: Troy Smith Wants to be a Bownie

    So, wonder what Cindrich says now...

    "uhhhh, Troy Smith would crawl to the Cincinatti Bengals...That is where he REALLY wanted to go all along!"

    I'm putting down 20 bucks says next year, Troy Smith wears purple and black.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RavenScallywag View Post
    I'm putting down 20 bucks says next year, Troy Smith wears purple and black.
    I don't think so. I'll see your $20 and raise you $10.

    Harbaugh doesn't want bad seeds. He has already had a year's worth of Smith's bullshit, and is likely to want to dump him whether the Ravens receive compensation or not. There was a reason why the Ravens leaked the story on Todd Collins.
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