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    Re: The Curse of Trent Dilfer



    The point is not about whether Dilfer was mistreated...everyone in the Ravens fandom knows dumping Dilfer for Grbac was a bad move...It made sense at the time though, Grbac was coming off of a Pro Bowl year in KC and looked like a guy who'd be able to sling the ball. Meanwhile, Dilfer was a loveable guy, but he wasn't an elite QB. Our gameplan that made him look so good was protect the ball, run the ball, and play lights out defense. Billick and Ozzie felt we needed to upgrade at QB in order to get another SB.

    But to say we are "cursed" because of Dilfer...that's like saying the Patriots are cursed because of losing Vinatieri, since they haven't won a SB since he left. It's just coincidence.
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    Re: The Curse of Trent Dilfer

    This looks like one of the threads over on the Sun's forums.

    Seriously...there is a thread about who you'd rather have as coach...Rex or Harbs and Rex was running away with it last time I looked lol.

    I think some are migrating over here...no other way to explain some of these retarded threads.




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    Re: The Curse of Trent Dilfer

    And in defense of Grbac, he had the misfortune of having our only running threat go down for the season during training camp, relying on names like Terry Allen, Jason Brookins, and Moe Williams. This meant we had no running game, so opposing defenses could concentrate more on defending the pass, rendering Grbac pretty useless.

    I don't know why I keep responding to this thread. Retarded is a good word to describe this thread.




  4. #19

    Re: The Curse of Trent Dilfer

    The Ravens will not win another Super bowl because of the curse of Trent Dilfer. Look how long it took Boston to overcome that curse of the Babe .
    Trent, how are you?

    You should feel lucky you got a ring and a free trip to DisneyWorld.

    I know, I know, feeding a troll...




  5. #20

    Re: The Curse of Trent Dilfer

    Oh and Dilfer was not undefeated.




  6. #21

    Re: The Curse of Trent Dilfer

    Quote Originally Posted by RavenScallywag View Post
    The point is not about whether Dilfer was mistreated...everyone in the Ravens fandom knows dumping Dilfer for Grbac was a bad move...It made sense at the time though, Grbac was coming off of a Pro Bowl year in KC and looked like a guy who'd be able to sling the ball. Meanwhile, Dilfer was a loveable guy, but he wasn't an elite QB. Our gameplan that made him look so good was protect the ball, run the ball, and play lights out defense. Billick and Ozzie felt we needed to upgrade at QB in order to get another SB.

    But to say we are "cursed" because of Dilfer...that's like saying the Patriots are cursed because of losing Vinatieri, since they haven't won a SB since he left. It's just coincidence.
    TrINT never looked good in Baltimore. I still cringe when I see how bad and how lucky he was in SB XXXV. Better to be lucky than good though, I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RAVENOUS52 View Post
    TrINT never looked good in Baltimore. I still cringe when I see how bad and how lucky he was in SB XXXV. Better to be lucky than good though, I guess.
    Trent Dilfer is one of the worst quarterbacks in history to win the Superbowl. He didn't screw it up. He should get credit for that. But he rode an all time great defense and terrific running game to the championship. If we had even a solid QB like McNair or Gannon that season, we might have gone undefeated.

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    Re: The Curse of Trent Dilfer

    I do not think it is reasonable to argue there is a "curse" on the Ravens due to Dilfer's being cut. After all, who believes in curses?

    Still, many Ravens fans and management have not understood what Dilfer's loss means for them and for the team:

    (1) Cutting Dilfer was clearly unmerited at the time and crushed the Ravens long-term;

    (2) The value of Dilfer's intelligent, unhurried, mistake-free play is particularly obvious after yesterday's loss to the Steelers. Dilfer was superb at never getting rattled, at never allowing unforced turnovers, and at instilling the values of competence, patience, and skill in his teammates.

    (3) Whenever there is a thread on this message board defending Dilfer and arguing that Dilfer was unfairly treated, numerous posters chime in with slurs about his play. That type of response is classless: Dilfer brought home the Ravens only Superbowl, and was a supremely intelligent, winning-oriented quarterback. I don't know of any other group of nominal team fans who act like that. Usually team fans are loyal to and support their best and most successful players - with Ravens fans, it's the opposite, at least in Dilfer's case.

    (4) Dilfer represents a philosophy: of winning over statistics, of function over form, of skill over flash. By rejecting Dilfer, the Ravens (and their fans) implicitly rejected that philosophy. That rejection carries over even today, to decisions, for example, whether to select coaches based on that coach's actual football expertise or on his perceived public relations attributes. Ravens fans and management have to ask themselves: do they value skill or do they value flash?

    Until Ravens fans and management can come to understand that firing Dilfer was wrong - and why it was wrong - and that heaping scorn on Dilfer is likewise wrong, they will continue to repeat the same kind of mistakes that led to his firing.
    Last edited by rbnn; 01-16-2011 at 12:25 PM.




  9. #24

    Re: The Curse of Trent Dilfer

    Quote Originally Posted by rbnn View Post
    I do not think it is reasonable to argue there is a "curse" on the Ravens due to Dilfer's being cut. After all, who believes in curses?

    Still, many Ravens fans and management have not understood what Dilfer's loss means for them and for the team:

    (1) Cutting Dilfer was clearly unmerited at the time and crushed the Ravens long-term;

    (2) The value of Dilfer's intelligent, unhurried, mistake-free play is particularly obvious after yesterday's loss to the Steelers. Dilfer was superb at never getting rattled, at never allowing unforced turnovers, and at instilling the values of competence, patience, and skill in his teammates.

    (3) Whenever there is a thread on this message board defending Dilfer and arguing that Dilfer was unfairly treated, numerous posters chime in with slurs about his play. That type of response is classless: Dilfer brought home the Ravens only Superbowl, and was a supremely intelligent, winning-oriented quarterback. I don't know of any other group of nominal team fans who act like that.

    (4) Dilfer represents a philosophy: of winning over statistics, of function over form, of skill over flash. By rejecting Dilfer, the Ravens (and their fans) implicitly rejected that philosophy. That rejection carries over even today, to decisions, for example, whether to select coaches based on that coach's actual football expertise or on his public relations skills. Ravens and fans and management have to ask themselves: do they value skill or do they value flashiness?

    Until Ravens fans and management can come to understand that firing Dilfer was wrong - and why it was wrong - and that heaping scorn on Dilfer is likewise wrong, they will repeat the same mistakes again and again.
    You are a fucking idiot. You have no idea what the hell you are writing...each of your points are full with factual errors...especially the last paragraph...and reading your bullshit just gives intelligent football fans a headache.

    I award you no points for believing in mythical curses and may God have mercy on your soul.




  10. Re: The Curse of Trent Dilfer

    Quote Originally Posted by rbnn View Post
    I do not think it is reasonable to argue there is a "curse" on the Ravens due to Dilfer's being cut. After all, who believes in curses?

    Still, many Ravens fans and management have not understood what Dilfer's loss means for them and for the team:

    (1) Cutting Dilfer was clearly unmerited at the time and crushed the Ravens long-term;

    (2) The value of Dilfer's intelligent, unhurried, mistake-free play is particularly obvious after yesterday's loss to the Steelers. Dilfer was superb at never getting rattled, at never allowing unforced turnovers, and at instilling the values of competence, patience, and skill in his teammates.

    (3) Whenever there is a thread on this message board defending Dilfer and arguing that Dilfer was unfairly treated, numerous posters chime in with slurs about his play. That type of response is classless: Dilfer brought home the Ravens only Superbowl, and was a supremely intelligent, winning-oriented quarterback. I don't know of any other group of nominal team fans who act like that. Usually team fans are loyal to and support their best and most successful players - with Ravens fans, it's the opposite, at least in Dilfer's case.

    (4) Dilfer represents a philosophy: of winning over statistics, of function over form, of skill over flash. By rejecting Dilfer, the Ravens (and their fans) implicitly rejected that philosophy. That rejection carries over even today, to decisions, for example, whether to select coaches based on that coach's actual football expertise or on his perceived public relations attributes. Ravens fans and management have to ask themselves: do they value skill or do they value flash?

    Until Ravens fans and management can come to understand that firing Dilfer was wrong - and why it was wrong - and that heaping scorn on Dilfer is likewise wrong, they will continue to repeat the same kind of mistakes that led to his firing.
    Are you fucking kidding me??

    How far back into the archives did you have to go to dig this thread back up?

    The damn thing is a year old!!

    Thank you for that unbiased opinion of Trent Dilfer.

    Look forward to hearing your analogy of what happened this week on the Norris & Davis show when they have you on Trent.
    Will Die A Ravens Fan!!




  11. #26

    Re: The Curse of Trent Dilfer

    He sucked it was our D and stover end of that discusion




  12. #27

    Re: The Curse of Trent Dilfer

    Hmmm .....

    I'm not sayin, I'm just sayin' ...

    Cutting your Super Bowl winning QB puts lots of bad juju out in the world. Didn't even give him an honest chance to compete for the job.

    Karma dude ...




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