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    Post Saying goodbye to AD might be best for the Ravens



    Keeping AD could keep the Ravens from another title...

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    Re: Saying goodbye to AD might be best for the Ravens

    Great article TL.

    I agree 100%!
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    Re: Saying goodbye to AD might be best for the Ravens

    Quote Originally Posted by TL24x7 View Post
    Keeping AD could keep the Ravens from another title...
    here.
    Yup. Ozzie made similar comments to Biscotti's 'windows' remark also. AD, I hope you get paid what you deserve, we'll be ok without you.
    This one's for you AD, I hope you don't go somewhere bad. :toast:
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    Re: Saying goodbye to AD might be best for the Ravens

    I agree 1000% Tony; I've been saying similar things for weeks now. I hope AD either stays with a hometown discount or gets paid handsomely somewhere else.




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    Re: Saying goodbye to AD might be best for the Ravens

    Great Article, Tony. After reading the other 2 articles regarding the salary cap, it's clear to see the Ravens are NOT going to franchise him, nor are they going to rush to sign him, either. They will let him test the market and if the market doesn't turn out some insane price, the Ravens may make an offer that is reasonable, long term, and one that won't break the bank for the future. It is clear to me the Ravens want consistency year in and year out like the Patriots and the Eagles. It's no fun entering into a season knowing its a building year and you are eliminated from the playoffs right out of the gate (aka Baltimore Orioles).




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    Nice article TL! I agree 100%...I love AD, but there are linebackers waiting in his shadow...I truly believe this statement you made is true impart to one, Ray Lewis! "the Ravens develop productive linebackers the way the Atlanta Braves produce pitchers." Ray's strong desire and competitiveness to win makes all his fellow linebackers play at an extra level...Mark my words, when Ray Lewis retires we will see a slow decline in our great linebacker's play!




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    Diasagree. The only reason the Ravens are contenders is the Defense. Losing Thomas would be huge. I don't think we'd be the #1 defense without Thomas, and our offense needs a lot more than just replacing Jamal Lewis to become above average. I hope that our FO stays with the formula that got us here since the 1998 season.
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    Re: Saying goodbye to AD might be best for the Ravens

    T brings up an excellent point. Our offense hasn't won very many games in, oh let's just say forever.

    Improving the running game will help, but what's out there in FA that is going to put us over the top? Turner will probably be tagged and there isn't anybody that really jumps out as a major improvement.
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    Re: Saying goodbye to AD might be best for the Ravens

    Quote Originally Posted by Mista T View Post
    Diasagree. The only reason the Ravens are contenders is the Defense. Losing Thomas would be huge. I don't think we'd be the #1 defense without Thomas, and our offense needs a lot more than just replacing Jamal Lewis to become above average. I hope that our FO stays with the formula that got us here since the 1998 season.
    Seeing as we did not win squat until 2000, I think you meant "the formula that got us here since 2000."

    As for AD, our defense will miss his presence, but it won't be "huge" to lose AD. Our defense would still be number 1 without him as it was number 1 before anyone knew of AD's talent. It is this system along with the COLLECTION of talent on defense that makes us a dominant defense. And even if we do fall off, the D would still be good enough to get us to a SB.

    Another thing is that AD will have to find a system that utilizes him correctly as we do. Wish him the best, but I am not worried of losing AD.
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    Re: Saying goodbye to AD might be best for the Ravens

    that's because you and other blind people don't see the impact he has and assume people give a damn because he's a public figure with a radio show.

    Ask any football person out there, any opponent we played, what the first thing they had to do when they played against our defense and they would say "find where 96 is lining up."

    Ray Lewis is just "a guy" right now. Teams ran plays AT him to avoid running plays at AD and Bart Scott.

    Let's put it this way. Losing AD in 2007 would be at a bare minimum equally as crippling as losing Ray Lewis would have been in 2001.

    AD is the most versatile defender in the entire NFL. Not just on our team. And he's not a jack of all trades, master of none type guy either. The man is ferocious off the edge, in coverage, and against the run. There is not a better linebacker for our defense in the league, period. If we lose him, you will see a drastic drop off.




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    Re: Saying goodbye to AD might be best for the Ravens

    You didn't read the entire piece there RT. No one knocked AD's play, quite the opposite. You missed the gist of the article. We're all entitled to opinions, hence the purpose for this board and the purpose of a column.

    But I have to ask, who's really the blind one here?




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    Re: Saying goodbye to AD might be best for the Ravens

    Yeah the article makes it points. At the end of the day its a business and the salary cap is doing what its designed to do. Spread the wealth of talent amongst the league. From a talent stand point and in what AD brings, its no questions he belongs here. The dollar and cents side of the equations says he'll command far more that what would give the franchise can give at the "right player, right price " motto will allow. Bottom line. AD Baltimore wishes you the best.. .




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    Re: Saying goodbye to AD might be best for the Ravens

    Free agency this year isn't going to bring us anyone worth noticing... that is, until the season starts. We'll probably wind up with another couple of guys like Justin Bannan and Corey Ivy: solid roleplayers who contribute for a low price but aren't expected to do spectacular things. We're sure as hell not getting a brand new RB through free agency. RB is the absolute best position to fill through the draft rather than free agency; in fact, only DE is even close on the same scale.

    Most likely offseason? Thomas goes to the 49ers, we bring back Pashos for a reasonable deal, same for Mughelli, we cut Jamal, we draft a RB on day one, we draft a DE/OLB hybrid on day one, put Cody in the starting role and hope he stays healthy, have our rookie as a backup plan, and we manage to get by.

    And while it was a fine article, let's not forget that despite the shitty playoff performance, our offense was much improved this year with Billick calling the plays. Was it just a run of good luck? Maybe, but that's hard to justify. We were rarely explosive, but even with a substandard running game we put up a decent amount of points on some pretty good teams. Can we do it again, with McNair? If we want another AFCN Championship and a playoff run, we'll have to. And I think we will. We are watching young offensive players emerge: Clayton, Heap, Williams, Mughelli, Pashos, Brown, Chester. We're phasing out older veterans and replacing them with fresh blood. I do expect improvement, even if there's not a big jump in new personnel.




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    Re: Saying goodbye to AD might be best for the Ravens

    One ray of hope -

    AD is extremely talented but most teams would want him to play LB. Just boring old LB. Which would depress his market value.

    I would expect the offer for a long term deal from the Ravens will actually be higher then most teams would be willing to pay for a pure LB, because we have a scheme that takes advantage of his abilities. So perhaps, if one or two teams - Patriots, possibly SF? - drop out, we may *still* have the top offer on the table. I doubt it, but it would be nice.

    AD must make Bill Belichek's mouth water with his versatility, but the Pats are historically cheapskates. . .
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    TL 24X7 i was talking specifically to Purple Rulz not about the column.




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