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    Re: Halftime Salute to the Colts/Ravens Marching Band



    Quote Originally Posted by srobert96 View Post
    I did not watch the film yet but I seriously doubt that the band was the reason that Baltimore got a team. I guess I am too young too understand the significance of the band to Baltimore football. I have never watched them perform at halftime. Never booed them but also have never been inclined to watch. Their existence does not bother me nor would I be upset if they went away.

    Baltimore got a football team because they had the ability to offer a new stadium not because of a band. It also did not hurt that the Baltimore Stallions had tremendous support from the fans.
    The band was one of the reasons because it helped to keep Baltimore's football spirit alive and its national visibility in NFL circles alive. All the factors you mention were huge too. You should definitely see the movie!!!!! Old or young, I bet you feel it.




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    Re: Halftime Salute to the Colts/Ravens Marching Band

    Quote Originally Posted by ravensscott57 View Post
    Caliraven, I don't boo, but it is certainly done. I also don't tell people to go kill themselves. Coming from a family that has been affected by suicide I'm suprised that a board like this allows comments like that from a "seasoned" user.
    I guess the band being all volunteer (what marching band isn't) is a good enough excuse for being technically awful. Thats nice they single handedly kept the football spirit alive in Baltimore and were the driving force behind us getting a team. As a lifelong Baltimorean I just happen to think thats not the case. Why not honor the Colts Corrals... i.e. future Ravens Nests.... did they not have the same part in keeping the dream alive?
    Week after week putting out a seriously inferior product that is the constant "but" of jokes gets to be embarrasing. Its kind of like in todays society where every kid gets a trophy....
    I had a friend fly in for the Chiefs game and he almost doubled over laughing when the band performed at halftime. He couldn't believe how awful they were....
    I understand. We shouldn't get at each other's throats on this board. This is the only chat stuff I do, because internet anonimity makes people not their best sometimes. It's ok to attack opinions, but not each other. If only in one area, love for the Ravens, we are all like minded.

    See the dang movie and those jokes will just go in one ear and out the other as you stand and applaud the disonant stylings of the marching band.




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    Re: Halftime Salute to the Colts/Ravens Marching Band

    I am not suggesting that the band is "the reason" why we have the Ravens but they are "a reason" the Ravens are here. The band kept Baltimore visible as an NFL town for all of those years when Baltimore did not have a team. That's a big deal.

    Also, the band serves as a bridge between current Baltimore football and what was argueably one of the most storied franchises in NFL history. I was lucky to come in on the tail end of it and have family that lived through it from the beginning.

    To criticize the band, you are criticizing a history that, for many of us, includes important family members to us and important times we shared. If you don't like the band and don't like what it symbolizes then don't participate in a celebration of it. Its that easy. It always looks a little odd to me when someone goes out of their way to piss on someone else's parade. Its not like the band takes up a lot of space in your life?








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    Re: Halftime Salute to the Colts/Ravens Marching Band

    I'd advise anyone inclined to criticize the band to at least view the Levinson documentary first. Lawmakers in Annapolis have gone on record as admitting that they were swayed by the band's appearance at the state capitol and then Governor Schaefer still believes it was them that tipped the balance in favor of a vote for Baltimore to pursue a team. It's further documented in other books on the period by a number of authors including John Steadman. Simply put, if they hadn't kept Baltimore in the minds of local lawmakers and football fans across the nation, there would BE no Baltimore Ravens, as stadium funding would likely have been allocated elsewhere.

    For that alone, they should be allowed to do whatever they damn well please at half time.




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    Re: Halftime Salute to the Colts/Ravens Marching Band

    Quote Originally Posted by ravensscott57 View Post
    Funny thing HoustonRaven... I've been a member of "The Boards" longer than you have.... whose the "Newbie"?
    Point?

    Yes, I was a little over the top with my comments but clearly you have little comprehension of the heritage and, after seeing the documentary last night, I found your post to be VERY ill timed.
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    Re: Halftime Salute to the Colts/Ravens Marching Band

    Quote Originally Posted by ravensscott57 View Post
    Caliraven, I don't boo, but it is certainly done. I also don't tell people to go kill themselves. Coming from a family that has been affected by suicide I'm suprised that a board like this allows comments like that from a "seasoned" user.
    I guess the band being all volunteer (what marching band isn't) is a good enough excuse for being technically awful. Thats nice they single handedly kept the football spirit alive in Baltimore and were the driving force behind us getting a team. As a lifelong Baltimorean I just happen to think thats not the case. Why not honor the Colts Corrals... i.e. future Ravens Nests.... did they not have the same part in keeping the dream alive?
    Week after week putting out a seriously inferior product that is the constant "but" of jokes gets to be embarrasing. Its kind of like in todays society where every kid gets a trophy....
    I had a friend fly in for the Chiefs game and he almost doubled over laughing when the band performed at halftime. He couldn't believe how awful they were....
    Wow....POST OF THE DAY! Where to start...

    First, with some of the other posters here and their drivel, just consider the source. 'Nuff said. But don't think people here "tolerate" it...I certainly won't that stuff be forgotten.

    Regarding the band - you are 100% right. Believe me, the small yet vocal minority will never change the opinions of 95% of all Ravens fans that a) the band is terrible, b)the band is useless, and c) their contributions to bringing football to Baltimore is incredibly overblown.

    Remember your heritage! What a joke. Remember heritage that is worth remembering is what I say to that. The marching band is my heritage along with the "gino giant" and drive in movie theaters - big deal. I know plenty of people who used to go to Colts games and I've never heard one single word mentioned about the band. Ever. Not one. I talk to old timers at Ravens games they all hate the Marching Ravens too. I've heard people booing them plenty of times. At the Patriots game they have nothing at half time and it was quite peaceful. They, like 30 other NFL teams, don't feel the need to pipe some horrible marching band through the loudspeakers (in front of the maybe 5,000 people who stay in their seats at halftime).




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    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    Point?

    Yes, I was a little over the top with my comments but clearly you have little comprehension of the heritage and, after seeing the documentary last night, I found your post to be VERY ill timed.
    My "point" is that before you told me to go kill myself you "welcomed" me to the boards as if I had no business being here, yet I found it funny that while I don't post unless it is something that matters to me, I've been a "member" of this community longer than you have HoustonRaven.

    I saw the documentary. Well done, but way overblown. I'll say it again, with the amount of high end programming that goes into the "performance" end of putting on a Ravens game on Sunday afternoon, the band is an absolute JOKE. Instead of celebrating the future (letting young children experience the thrill of being on a field in front of 70k fans) we have a bunch of untalented clingers to the past who take and get WAY more credit than is warranted or deserved. Do the opening, practice a routine so that you can actually perform it well maybe twice a season at halftime, but give me a break.... do you really have a clue as to how awful they are?

    Many old Colts fans could give a rip about "the band", don't try to speak for us all.




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    For anybody who missed the first time it played on TV (as I did), here is the schedule of when it will replay:

    http://30for30.espn.com/schedule.html


    It looks like tomorrow (Thursday) at 9pm it will be on ESPN2.




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    Quote Originally Posted by ravensscott57 View Post
    I saw the documentary. Well done, but way overblown. I'll say it again, with the amount of high end programming that goes into the "performance" end of putting on a Ravens game on Sunday afternoon, the band is an absolute JOKE.
    Ever heard of "the Grinch"? While many Baltimore football fans are enjoyiong the afterglow of Levinson's fine documentary, why come here to spoil it as a troll?

    Quote Originally Posted by ravensscott57 View Post
    Instead of celebrating the future (letting young children experience the thrill of being on a field in front of 70k fans) we have a bunch of untalented clingers to the past who take and get WAY more credit than is warranted or deserved.
    Now that's a joke in itself. Why would we want to spend $500+ per game to watch a bunch of kids running around? They have their leagues -- it's not adult entertainment.

    Get real. Those little kids have absolutely nothing to do with the legacy of Baltimore football; the band has a lot to do with it.
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    The Colts Marching Band is the most iconic band in professional sports.

    Just having them in the building is SB's way of saying "Thank You".




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    Re: Halftime Salute to the Colts/Ravens Marching Band

    Brilliant documentary! Well-done. You can tell a lot of passion and love went into the making of that documentary.
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    I haven't seen it but am looking forward to it. It's an inspirational story that the Colts marching band stayed together all those years with no team in Baltimore.

    Saying they should retire or go away because of their (perceived) lack of talent is pretty disgraceful in my book. Anybody who would take that position would disrespect Mother Teresa cause she wasn't pretty.




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    Re: Halftime Salute to the Colts/Ravens Marching Band

    Quote Originally Posted by RAVENOUS52 View Post
    The Colts Marching Band is the most iconic band in professional sports.

    Just having them in the building is SB's way of saying "Thank You".
    First off, keeping the band around was Modell's way of trying to bring in a lot of the old Colt fans. Also because certain band cronies spend many days and nights kissing serious ass to be involved with the new team. In other words, SB has nothing to do with it. As a matter of fact, under his regime the band has lost a considerable amount of seats (over 75%).

    Secondly, the Colts/Ravens marching band is one of two marching bands in professional sports, so saying they are the "most iconic" is comical at best.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Lap View Post
    I haven't seen it but am looking forward to it. It's an inspirational story that the Colts marching band stayed together all those years with no team in Baltimore.

    Saying they should retire or go away because of their (perceived) lack of talent is pretty disgraceful in my book. Anybody who would take that position would disrespect Mother Teresa cause she wasn't pretty.
    So let me get this straight...
    Ravens Marching Band = Mother Theresa?

    Wow, you people clearly have issues.... Perceived lack of talent? Are you kidding? Take a look around at a game (if you even go).... No one pays attention because they are HORRIBLE. Have you ever actually watched as a clueless sax player forgets where he is on the field and tries to run to his position, or listened as they play a horribly out of tune and unrecognizable version of ACDC because they are trying to be "hip"? I think there should be a separate Band Apologist thread for all of you who claim to love the half time show so much. You can all get together and swoon over the latest and greatest formations from the past game.




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    Quote Originally Posted by ravensscott57 View Post
    So let me get this straight...
    Ravens Marching Band = Mother Theresa?

    Wow, you people clearly have issues.... Perceived lack of talent? Are you kidding? Take a look around at a game (if you even go).... No one pays attention because they are HORRIBLE. Have you ever actually watched as a clueless sax player forgets where he is on the field and tries to run to his position, or listened as they play a horribly out of tune and unrecognizable version of ACDC because they are trying to be "hip"? I think there should be a separate Band Apologist thread for all of you who claim to love the half time show so much. You can all get together and swoon over the latest and greatest formations from the past game.

    I'm confused. If it's unrecognizable, how exactly do you know its ACDC?

    Being Scottish I was brought up to respect and remember my heritage. The half time show is about the least important thing of the game so why not just let these guys who played a big part in Baltimore football history play? It's respectful to the fact that they never gave up on Baltimore getting a team again.

    I recently read a blog written by a Steelers fan who advised all his fellow fans to go to a Ravens game in Baltimore one day because 'everything about the football in Baltimore is right, even though we hate the team on it'

    This isn't about how good a band are, it's about showing respect.




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