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  1. #31

    Re: Ray Wants Contract Extension



    i say we hold the phone on any judgement in this case, for 2 reasons:

    1) this info is coming from mike preston who, as we've established here, is not exactly one of the shining lights to come out of THE Towson University.

    2) this info is coming from mike preston who hasn't exactly been the biggest fan of brian billick or ray lewis over the years.

    and yes, i agree, the nfl is a cruel business, which is why i think ray is asking for this. he knows he doesn't have much time left and wants one more pay day.




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    Re: Ray Wants Contract Extension

    Quote Originally Posted by Raven Nurse View Post
    Lets translate...the NFL uses players as long as they are good and then your done=====as long as your productive in your job means you keep your job if not your fired...............Sounds like any other job in the terms. Screw them and their millions. I can not believe I spend thousands on season tix every year...
    Let me further translate. When a person has been on the job for a certain amount of years and have contributed mightly to that company's success, what does that person do? Ask for a raise. Ask for more job security.

    Bottomline, when a player has lost his productiveness that player is cut and he loses the rest of his contract/salary. (And we are the main ones ready to cut players in the middle of their contracts: i.e. Rolle, Vincent, Flynn, Jamal, etc.) When a player, however, has performed well and was a significant piece to a 13-3 season and another playoff visit, you ask for a raise.

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  3. #33

    Re: Ray Wants Contract Extension

    yeah but if your job includes a contract I don't think you are let go w/o some sort of compensation




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    Re: Ray Wants Contract Extension

    I, for one, think we should get him a new deal, if it is in any way reasonable.

    He is nearing the end of his current deal and his salaries for the two upcoming seasons are very high. By extending his deal, we can drop his cap number for the next few years and give him a signing bonus to be spread over the life of the deal. We also get to keep one of our legends a Raven, effectively for the rest of his career.

    A 5-6 year contract (so, a 3-4 year extension/restructuring of his current deal) with a reasonable signing bonus (not one of the biggest at his position, but worthy of the top ten) will help Ray and the team. Ray gets some up front money, we get some cap relief.

    In three or four years, when Ray is closing on retirement, we can review whether or not to release him. By then, we'll have only half the signing bonus to deal with (or less, depending on how long we go before dealing with the situation again) and we'll likely be in a position to absorb it, if we have to cut him. We could spread it out over two years and realize a significant savings anyway, assuming that we couldn't take it all in one year.

    The only real risk is that Ray gets hurt and retires shortly after we give him the extension... or his level of play falls off the face of the earth, which seems unlikely. And you can say that about any football player; look at LeCharles Bentley for the Browns, who might be out for all of next season now too. And he's what, 25?

    This would be the time to extend Ray Lewis. Maybe it means we keep AD. Maybe it means we have an easier time extending Terrell Suggs (who should be in line to get his contract worked out right now, thanks to triggering that escalator). With guys like Heap, Reed, McAlister, and Scott locked up for the foreseeable future, we are not looking at a "closing window" for Super Bowl contention... unless you believe that we'll fall back into a funk when McNair is no longer our starter. Yes, our defense could carry on right now with a replacement for Ray Lewis... but there's just no need for it. Extend him and get those high base salaries off the books.




  5. #35

    Re: Ray Wants Contract Extension

    yeah i'm sure Ray Lewis is saying "Let me make less money to lower the cap number so we can re-sign AD"

    when a year ago he wanted to be the highest paid player in the league...

    he's past his prime...a top 10 MLB but no where near as integral to the success of our defense as AD...that doesn't discredit what he does...he's still a damn good player...but he's not doing this for the best of the team, and i'm all for trading him while he still has some (prob 3rd round) value.




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    Re: Ray Wants Contract Extension

    It's not a matter of him "agreeing to make less money". For him, it's about getting money now.

    If Ray suffers another serious injury during training camp, the team could release him with an injury settlement and not pay him much of anything. He has no security against such a move because his contract doesn't make it less appealing to let him go. He may have two years left with high numbers, but those numbers mean nothing if the team gets rid of him. There's no guarantee. If he gets an extension, he gets money right now in the form of a signing bonus. That would be the incentive for him.

    He doesn't strike me as incompetent; it would be ludicrous for him to expect a contract that would make him among the highest-paid in the game. He already had one of those, and basically they only happen once. If that's what he's asking for, then we can let him play out his deal and see if he becomes more reasonable as his value declines with age, or we can suck it up, release him, and move on. But if we can get him to agree to an extension that matches his value now (as opposed to his value five years ago), then we should get it done.




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    Re: Ray Wants Contract Extension

    Quote Originally Posted by ravenwoman View Post
    Keep the contract as is. A deal is a deal. I am sick and tired of all these players and coaches trying to get out of contracts which are legally binding documents.

    I would never amend any contract for a player, no matter how much he needed the money.
    Hmmmm, Why does this not surprise me? U R TUFF raven woman!




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    Re: Ray Wants Contract Extension

    Quote Originally Posted by Raven Nurse View Post
    In most jobs when you stop producing, your let go. No company keeps dead weight. It is unproductive. The NFL is no different. Thats why I have no problem with the T.O's of the world of asking for more money...WHILE THEY ARE PRODUCIVE>>>>NOT READY TO RETIRE so your statement...Let me further translate. When a person has been on the job for a certain amount of years and have contributed mightly to that company's success, what does that person do? Ask for a raise. Ask for more job security. makes no sense

    You need to go back and read what I said again. I agreed with your argument (even though it is shortsighted) that an unproductive person is let go from a job. That said, when a person is productive and instrumental to a company's success, that person asks for a raise.

    It is no different for the NFL players. Ray Lewis feels he was instrumental in our 13-3 season (and he was), so he has a right to ask for a raise (or new contract).
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  9. #39

    Re: Ray Wants Contract Extension

    I just wanted to point out exactly what Preston said - and didn't say:

    Ray-Ray
    Middle linebacker Ray Lewis has apparently not given up on trying to get a contract extension. The Ravens have given Lewis an extension almost every season, but have denied him one the past two years. Apparently, it's going to be a third straight year.

    It's looks like mighty Ray has struck out again.

    Posted by Mike Preston on January 24, 2007 at 8:21 AM
    At no point does he say that Ray has actually ask for an extension. Preston is only saying that apparently Ray hasn't given up an extension. Similarly, at no point did he say that the Ravens did reject anything or that they even had anything to reject.

    So, is it a prediction or speculation?

    Who knows?

    Maybe a "source" told Preston that Ray does have plans to ask and Preston has been told by someone in the FO that if Ray does ask, he'll be denied.

    But, again, who knows?

    So what exactly is the purpose of this blog?

    So, now this one little blog - about something that hasn't apparently even happened and possibly, may never happen - will take a life of its own, and already there is a blurb in USAToday saying that Ray has asked for an extension and has been denied, crediting The Sun as the source.
    Last edited by B-more Ravor; 01-26-2007 at 11:54 AM.
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