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    Sophomore Slump" for Flacco?? Not likely.



    It seems that all of the idiots/pundits who predict the Ravens to "take a step back" this year cite a "sophmore slump"form Flacco as one of their main reasons.

    I guess they fail to realize the improvement Flacco made as the season progressed, and also the fact that in the NFL at the QB position the "sophomore slump" is a figment of many's imagination. Matter of fact,most good QBs significantly improve from their first full season to the next, or at worst have the same or slightly lower numbers than the first year.

    Also the fact that Flacco didnt exactly light it up and only put up only about 2,900 yds passing lends more to the argument that if anything his numbers and performance will be better this year and not worse.

    Lets take a look at some of the top QB's in the game today and see what happened in year 2....

    Peyton Manning - All stats jumped significantly.

    Tom Brady - Comp % and rating about the same,huge jumps in Yards and TD-INT ratio

    Drew Brees - Only played in 12 games 2nd year,rating was 6 points lower.

    Phillip Rivers - All stats dropped off slightly.Rating down by 10 points

    Jen Roethlisberger - Only played in 12 games 2nd year. Rating exactly the same.

    Jay Cutler - Most stats about the same but 1000 yd jump in yards.

    Donavan McNabb - All stats jumped significantly.(only 12 games 1st year)

    Carson Palmer - All stats jumped significantly. (only 13 games 1st year)

    Eli Manning - Only 9 games rookie year,but rating and comp % both jumped 2nd year.

    Matt Hassleback - All stats up significantly (only played in 13 games 1st year)

    Brett Farve - Slight dropoff in all stats.


    In almost every case their performance went up, in some cases like Manning and Cutler by a LOT. In the other cases where the performance was the same or slightly lower their first year stats were fantastic and alittle above the norm.For example Farve had a 64% comp rate his first year but dropped off to about 61 his second. Same with Rivers, had a great comp % his first year that slightly fell off.

    The point is this sophmore slump bullsh%^ is just that, and there is absolutely no history of even a moderate dropoff from year one to year 2. If there is a "dropoff" is usually by less than 5% in all areas or rather insignificant.

    The bottom line is most QB's were more accurate, threw many more TD's to INT's and threw for significantly more yards in their 2nd year.




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    Re: Sophomore Slump" for Flacco?? Not likely.

    There is not a sophmore allowed in the NFL. You have to be a Jr in college or 3 years out of HS to even enter the NFL draft.

    Grown ass men do not have sophomore slumps. That is what happens when yu hit the co eds and bong parties instead of practice in the off season.







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    Re: Sophomore Slump" for Flacco?? Not likely.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremiah W View Post
    That is what happens when yu hit the co eds and bong parties instead of practice in the off season.
    You mean like Matt Leinart?




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    Re: Sophomore Slump" for Flacco?? Not likely.

    Don't understand or agree with teh sophomore slump nonsense.

    The only players that have sophomore slumps are players that aren't good and have fluke rookie years.

    Flacco is no fluke.

    The argument just makes no sense...wait until defenses have a full year of tape on him? To me, the more tape he put out there, the better he played. It doesn't take a full year to find a guy's weakspots...it often takes just about 2 games or so.

    Conversely, the advances in a players game vastly outweigh any negatives about tape. Things like...already knowing the offense, knowing your teamates and taking more leadership roles, an offseason actually preparing for a full year of football as opposed to training for a combine and workouts, more NFL coaching specifically for your team etc...

    Good players get BETTER in year 2, not regressing into a sophomore slump. I think what they are saying is that Flacco isn't that good.




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    Re: Sophomore Slump" for Flacco?? Not likely.

    Quote Originally Posted by Raveninwoodlawn View Post
    Don't understand or agree with teh sophomore slump nonsense.

    The only players that have sophomore slumps are players that aren't good and have fluke rookie years.

    Flacco is no fluke.

    The argument just makes no sense...wait until defenses have a full year of tape on him? To me, the more tape he put out there, the better he played. It doesn't take a full year to find a guy's weakspots...it often takes just about 2 games or so.

    Conversely, the advances in a players game vastly outweigh any negatives about tape. Things like...already knowing the offense, knowing your teamates and taking more leadership roles, an offseason actually preparing for a full year of football as opposed to training for a combine and workouts, more NFL coaching specifically for your team etc...

    Good players get BETTER in year 2, not regressing into a sophomore slump. I think what they are saying is that Flacco isn't that good.
    Exactly. I have not heard much if any of that stuff about Matty Ice 1 and done in the post season.

    If a rookie Qb on any other team in the NFL broke a record for winning playoff games the media Brett Favre s storm would be out of control. You saw how they jocked big jen after his rookie season, but I do not see quite the same level of optimism for Flacco on a team that may be even better than the one the steelers won the Sb with in 2005.







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    Re: Sophomore Slump" for Flacco?? Not likely.

    I do not believe in a sophomore slump.

    I also think Flacco will do just fine next year.

    One thing I will NOT do is lump him in that group of of QB's. Not yet.

    Flacco does not belong on that list yet. He has ways to go until we can make those comparisons without the use of purple glasses.
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    Re: Sophomore Slump" for Flacco?? Not likely.

    I think one of the major issues with Joe Flacco is "choking" in key games....and at key times.......he's definitely gotten better.........but he needs to CHILL OUT and maintain the Joe Cool way of playing......I'm sure that having better receivers (or people he can trust more to catch his throws) will help him relax more........in those key moments. I watched the heartbreaking (and COMPLETELY preventable, imho) loss to the Steelers in January..........4 different players made fatal errors. Rice fumbled, Flacco threw a couple of deep-but-off duds, Boldin didn't catch an easy throw and Housh dropped a TD pass at the end.

    I can definitely see the value in having reliable people to throw to/people who can rescue occasional poor throws........Peyton Manning for example. 2009 season.....he was BRILLIANT. 2010.......all those injuries to key Colts.......it really showed in his performance. He even looked troubled at times.....(ya know.......the look on a player's face when he thinks.......oh s**t what should I do?)

    I trust in Joe Flacco.




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    Re: Sophomore Slump" for Flacco?? Not likely.

    I also wouldn't mind seeing Flacco run a bit more......with the ball. If Rice is blocked.....and short pass is not an option.....on 4th and short.....(4-5 yards) depending on how far behind the line of scrimmage he goes to make a throw.....

    Michael Vick does that.....successfully. It's cool watching him make a rushing TD....

    I'm not saying Flacco should try doing THAT.........but just enough to get us first down, if no other options are available on 3rd or 4th and short.




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