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  1. #25
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    Re: Panthers Interested In Boller?



    "I have nothing against Boller, but the conflict (and sometimes borderline hostility) that is demonstrated in the thread is a reason why Boller needs a fresh start."

    Well, when any of us (borderline hostile or not) that post on ANY message board actually play a game for the Ravens then maybe the above mentioned conflict will matter. Until then, I'll go with the guys that know more then me(i.e. the people who actually work for the Ravens) and if they seem to think it's better to stick with Boller, then I'm all for it
    Screw 'em all

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    Re: Panthers Interested In Boller?

    I would not trade Kyle Boller until it is clear who is our quarterback beyond next year. Kyle may not be great, but I think he has improved and he certainly is a serviceable backup, which every team needs.

    I think fans need to quit bashing the guy. I realize he is a slow work in progress, but unless we got a high draft pick, like a second round pick, I would not consider a trade.




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    Re: Panthers Interested In Boller?

    Byron Leftwich? Ugh, no thanks. The guy is a freakin statue.

    I wouldn't mind to trade Boller for a first day pick, as I agree a change of scenery would benefit him. I also think a lot of players don't believe in him (my opinion), and it's obvious a large portion of the fan base don't. I really like the kid, and I want to see him do well, but I don't think he ever really had a chance here, and that's a shame.

    IF they do trade him, they better sign a veteran backup to McNair, AND draft a QB of the future on the first day of the draft. JMO.
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    Re: Panthers Interested In Boller?

    The comments about Leftwich are funny. For the last 3 years most posters have been saying "we could have Leftwich instead of Boller!" Ignoring the fact that he just wasn't very good. Now that he has likely been pushed out in JAX everyone thinks he sucks.




  5. #29

    Re: Panthers Interested In Boller?

    PR, you make a great post. And I agree with pieces of it. However:

    The players have no faith in him (I don't care what is publicly said),
    Until you have some shred of proof or are in the locker room and have heard players talk, I wish you'd drop this shit. You have absolutely no idea what goes on behind closed doors, and people who HAVE been back there have said otherwise; especially with the young guys.

    Other than that, I think the Panthers would be a good fit for him. And no, I don't want Leftwich here. I'm pretty sure we want a QB that can actually move around.




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    Re: Panthers Interested In Boller?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tex Ritter View Post
    This thread has now brought up an interesting topic that I think would warrant a thread of its own which I will start.
    You made a post about a post you're going to make?

    I'm just about ready to the advice of others and put you on ignore.




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    Re: Panthers Interested In Boller?

    Quote Originally Posted by StingerNLG View Post
    PR, you make a great post. And I agree with pieces of it. However:



    Until you have some shred of proof or are in the locker room and have heard players talk, I wish you'd drop this shit. You have absolutely no idea what goes on behind closed doors, and people who HAVE been back there have said otherwise; especially with the young guys.

    Other than that, I think the Panthers would be a good fit for him. And no, I don't want Leftwich here. I'm pretty sure we want a QB that can actually move around.

    Okay to give you this. The ONLY way I see Boller being able to salvage a career here is after the 2008 season, (let's call it the 2008 30-and-over-veteran purge, because that's what it really is). Also note that Billick's new deal is up after 2008 and he may not be here and a new coach may want to start fresh with a different guy. That is unless my theory of Neuheisel being the heir apparent after 2008 is correct as he seems to have a connection with Boller.

    Otherwise, I think Boller deserves a break from this entire situation and a fresh start with another team. I feel the same with Leftwich. That kid was thrown to the wolves in the same manner as Boller, and he has talent.
    It's a new season! It's a new day!




  8. #32

    Re: Panthers Interested In Boller?

    not gonna lie, it's kinda funny how Grossman may end up being the best QB of that year's draft and we burned all sorts of picks to leapfrog Chicago to get Boller.....




  9. #33

    Re: Panthers Interested In Boller?

    Make no mistake PR, I agree with you on what you're saying. For reasons that I don't think are talent or potential based, I don't see him here when his contract is up. Maybe Boller himself is ready for a change and doesn't want to resign here. But a change in scenery I think would be best.


    not gonna lie, it's kinda funny how Grossman may end up being the best QB of that year's draft and we burned all sorts of picks to leapfrog Chicago to get Boller.....
    Weeeeeellllllll, let's not forget Carson Palmer was in that draft. Besides, let's not send Rex Grossman to the hall of fame just yet. He's just now playing better Football, and he could well lay an egg tomorrow night. He's still not the best QB of that draft.




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    Re: Panthers Interested In Boller?

    If they are really interested in Kyle it might be good to trade him for a 2nd round it you could get it. I like Kyle and I still think he will be a good QB. However this town will never accept him. When he came in this year he was very good. It might be best for Kyle and I would wish him well.






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    Re: Panthers Interested In Boller?

    Quote Originally Posted by PurpleRulz View Post
    In the 4th round last season, we drafted Demetrius Williams.
    And I think I noted that. Again, 3 players in over 20 picks, a 15% hit ratio.

    Quote Originally Posted by PurpleRulz View Post
    Okay, we will fail to make the playoffs if Boller is not our backup. That's a riot!
    Did I say that? Of course not. If McNair goes down FOR MORE GAMES Boller has proven he can win games to keep us in contention. That has more value that a 15% chance on some unknown quantity. At least until we are rebuilding it does.

    Quote Originally Posted by PurpleRulz View Post
    Bakup QBs are a dime a dozen. Hell, Jeff Garcia is available. He came in and led the Eagles to the postseason. Backups are that for a reason and can be found easily.
    Really? So why are the Panthers going to give up anything when they can have Garcia? Backup QBs that can win games are valuable and we have one here comfortable with the offense. And while I know you don't agree Boller has an upside potential Garcia does not, he's all downside.

    Quote Originally Posted by PurpleRulz View Post
    I have nothing against Boller, but the conflict (and sometimes borderline hostility) that is demonstrated in the thread is a reason why Boller needs a fresh start.
    Eh, I don't agree, he got cheers on each appearance when he hit the field this year and with a little positive momentum and success the fans would rally right around him.

    Quote Originally Posted by PurpleRulz View Post
    Strike while his value is high and trade Boller if there is interest. We can replace him with either a high round drafted QB or just sign a backup from FA. Finding backups is not hard.
    LOL, again, what value? A 4th round pick that has a 15% chance of being Stokley, Mulitalo or Williams? And while I am VERY excited about Demetius Williams at this point he still has a lot to prove.

    I would be shocked if Boller isn't here for 2007. If Garcia is just as good as Boller then why would Carolina give up a pick for Boller when they could just sign Garcia?

    Sorry to bump this back up, but I was just perusing some older threads and came across this.




  12. #36

    Re: Panthers Interested In Boller?

    I hope this trade happens. It would end the Boller hugger/hater crap, and we can start fresh with a new QB. (Maybe a Kevin Kolb hugger/hater club? How about a Byron Leftwich hugger/hater club. There was a rumor that we would pursue Leftwich to groom behind McNair. I like that idea).
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    Are you kidding me? Leftwich? C'mon, we do not need a statue, yeah, right, our OL is so very good at their job! He's who we actually wanted when we drafted Kyle, but I'm not at all sure one is better than the other!!!!!! We do NOT need another fiasco! We won't get fooled again!... I hope?




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