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    Conservative trashed DHS report now looking pretty accurate



    2 weeks...2 right wing extremist caused deaths. Domestic terrorists. The so called "Patriots". These deaths are a product of the conservatives losing an election and instead of taking the loss with dignity and trying to create a better approach, lashing out with hatred and divisiveness. Hannity, Beck, Oreilly, Limpball, coulter and the list goes on. They are all complicit and in their desire to sell books, they have been forced to outdo the others with over-the-top rethoric of hate and fear.

    They have tweaked every imaginable shadowy archetype in the minds of vulnerable and highly suggestible people. Now these people are starting to kill. Exactly what the DHS report warned against. I can't wait to a liberal in a position of authority will stand by reports such as these and stop tempering them because the conservative base cries out against the "patriotism" of such a report.

    Call a spade a spade. liberals don't carry guns into pro-life organizations and kill people...liberals don't shoot security guards on duty in an Ellis Island exhibit. Why? Because liberals respect and seek out diversity of experience and people. Liberals respect the rights and life of everyone. Liberals don't live in fear nor respect those who use fear as a tool of persuasion. Generally speaking liberals are more worldly and simply more intelligent.




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    Re: Conservative trashed DHS report now looking pretty accurate

    Quote Originally Posted by TRAP View Post
    LOL AT GALEN. Once again, he twists his facts and gets them completely wrong. You dont even know why he went into the Holocaust Museum to begin with. It had nothing to do with the election.
    I think want Galen is trying to say is that the current right wing "hate" speech that may have pushed this guy over the top. Seeing how he's last terrorist act was in 1981. With his already warped mind + extreme right wing talk = a bad combination.

    Quote Originally Posted by TRAP View Post
    Get the point. There are extremists groups from the extreme left to the extreme right that give the decent ones in the middle a bad name.
    Thats exactly the point. Liberals and conservaties have bad apples that ruin the bunch. We all are (you too Trap) are guilty of lumping the few in with the bad.

    Quote Originally Posted by TRAP View Post
    And finally, did you know that the guy that killed JFK was a left wing Marxist nut, just like OBY THE COMMIE, who was actually in Cuba before killing him and tried to go to Russia but not even the Russians wanted him. he was too much of a left wing nut job.
    Didn't he live in Russia for a while and marry his wife there. I always thought it was after he returned to the USA, then tired to get back into Russia is when he was denied.
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    Re: Conservative trashed DHS report now looking pretty accurate

    Quote Originally Posted by TRAP View Post
    DADE - Good post but Galen is trying to use a report that predicted this would happen amongst conservatives when this guy attacked a fed bldg 20 yrs before and did time. It was for revenge vs Jews whom he blamed for convicting him not the report and abortion clinics have been attacked and abortionists murdered for years before this report and has nothing to do with decent conservatives and that has nothing to do with the report. That is my point.

    See the link above for the full story on this wing nut.

    Yes, Lee Harvey Oswald was in Russia, married a Russian gal but Russia wouldnt let him return when he went into their embassy in Mexico City prior to killing JFK. He was also in Cuba before the assasination which many tried to link the entire event to Castro because Kennedy tried to off him - several times. Castro even said both Kennedy boys can be killed too and they were. Even Nixon made reference to this in the White House implying Castro killed JFK but every investigator of the Dallas Police Dept and on the Feds side say it was a lone crazed gun men who wanted to make a name for himself. He had tried to kill someone famous before JFK.

    He tried to kill a US General who was a right wing nut extremist and missed. That was common knowledge about Oswald. Now there is an example of a nut case in a responsible position in the US military preaching hate but the Russians knew all about Oswald from his Russian and Cuban days.

    Here is a statement from the KGB recommending that they not grant Oswald Russian citizenship.


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    On the same date, the deputy chief of the KGB, Alexander Perepelitsyn, signs a form letter from the KGB to the Supreme Soviet Secretary, stating that in their opinion, granting Oswald citizenship is "inadvisable" or "pointless."
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    DADE - Here is the link about Oswald in Russia and a lot of this information was made public and given to the US after the USSR fell. A lot of secret stuff on Oswald was given to the US by the newly formed Russian Federation. Interesting stuff to say the least.

    http://www.russianbooks.org/oswald/moscow1.htm
    What i am saying is the DHS released a report saying they were assessing an environment that was ripe for right wing extremist attacks. Every conservative talk show host took offense to the report and came out swinging instead of looking at their rethoric that was and is fueling hatred. Now two people are dead. I thought the report was probabaly valid then and am more believing in it now. We'll see what the future holds.

    At this point I am not sure what is more appalling to me as an american. 8 years of Bush or the conservative reaction to a democratically elected democratic president.

    By the way, this nutjob who shot at the holocaust museum is what is now being referred to as a "birther" or someone who holds steadfast to the idea that Obama wasn't born in the U.S. and doesn't have a valid birth certificate etc. He is a white supremist, anti-government and all of the rest. He is exactly the person the DHS report was concerned about.

    Of course, Trap and all the rest of the right will come out today and make excuses instead of looking at the Rights role in ramping up anger and divisiveness.

    Abortion is legal Trap...therefore it is not murder.




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    Re: Conservative trashed DHS report now looking pretty accurate

    Quote Originally Posted by Galen Sevinne View Post
    Call a spade a spade. liberals don't carry guns into pro-life organizations and kill people...liberals don't shoot security guards on duty in an Ellis Island exhibit. Why? Because liberals respect and seek out diversity of experience and people. Liberals respect the rights and life of everyone. Liberals don't live in fear nor respect those who use fear as a tool of persuasion. Generally speaking liberals are more worldly and simply more intelligent.

    What about the liberals that smashed the Asian guy in Federal Hill the other day in the face with a brick, on his way to get pizza. They didn't even rob him after throwing racial insults around at him. Or the hate crimes the liberal sare causing in Mt Vernon lately.

    How abotu the fact that the VAST MOJORITY of our ridiculous murder rate here in Blaimtore Is Liberal on Liberal crime...

    Walk down MLK and tell me those luberals are more worldly and intelligent then the average conservative.




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    Re: Conservative trashed DHS report now looking pretty accurate

    Quote Originally Posted by jonboy79 View Post
    What about the liberals that smashed the Asian guy in Federal Hill the other day in the face with a brick, on his way to get pizza. They didn't even rob him after throwing racial insults around at him. Or the hate crimes the liberal sare causing in Mt Vernon lately.

    How abotu the fact that the VAST MOJORITY of our ridiculous murder rate here in Blaimtore Is Liberal on Liberal crime...

    Walk down MLK and tell me those luberals are more worldly and intelligent then the average conservative.
    first of all how do you know its liberal on liberal crime in Baltimore? I am curious.

    Secondly, how do you know everyone on MLK is a liberal? I am curious.

    Thirdly, how do you know the guy who hit the asian guy in the face was a liberal? I am curious.

    Liberal hate crimes in Mt. Vernon?




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    Re: Conservative trashed DHS report now looking pretty accurate

    Believe it or not Fox News actually gets it right here:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxvun...layer_embedded

    pretty much what I have been saying for over 6 months. Wonder how long until Ole Rupert gets rid of Shep?




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    Re: Conservative trashed DHS report now looking pretty accurate

    Quote Originally Posted by Galen Sevinne View Post
    first of all how do you know its liberal on liberal crime in Baltimore? I am curious.

    Secondly, how do you know everyone on MLK is a liberal? I am curious.

    Thirdly, how do you know the guy who hit the asian guy in the face was a liberal? I am curious.

    Liberal hate crimes in Mt. Vernon?
    Voting history of Baltimore's African American community.




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    Re: Conservative trashed DHS report now looking pretty accurate

    Quote Originally Posted by jonboy79 View Post
    Voting history of Baltimore's African American community.
    so if you're black you're liberal. There are two problems with your argument.

    1. It is fallacious to assume that black on black crime is liberal on liberal crime. It's just ignorant really...and probably racist but we all know how you respond to being called a racist so I won't suggest that.

    2. Even if your so called "black on black" crime is "liberal on liberal" crime it is not based in political thought. In other words, those crimes aren't comitted for political means or gains such as killing a doctor who peforms legal abortions or killing a security guard who is securing a memorial to holocaust victims. It's not being a liberal thinker that causes inner-city drug dealers to kill one another when it comes to an issue of turf.

    But keep defending these murders with fallacious arguments. Liberal would expect no less. Maybe you should consider something like..."yeah that is an unfortunate part of the current conservative movement that I don't condone nor encourage"...instead of "look at all the blacks killing each other".




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    Re: Conservative trashed DHS report now looking pretty accurate

    I intentionally made a completely small minded, racist post that was completely partisan in spirit. I was copying the concept from yoru original post in this thread. My post was no more ridiculous.


    "Call a spade a spade. liberals don't carry guns into pro-life organizations and kill people...liberals don't shoot security guards on duty in an Ellis Island exhibit. Why? Because liberals respect and seek out diversity of experience and people. Liberals respect the rights and life of everyone. Liberals don't live in fear nor respect those who use fear as a tool of persuasion. Generally speaking liberals are more worldly and simply more intelligent."


    THat is the most absurd, ridiculous, ignorant and childish paragraph of thought I have ever read on a message board. And my response as always to being called racist? Same as always... hating white people is racist too G7...


    And I'm not defending any murders, but to say that a senile old white man's actions are representative of conservative belief is far more fallacious then anything I have stated in this thread. He did a horrible thing, but my point was that people on yoru side are doing it on a daily basis, with people on your side covering it up and looking the other way(see Baltimore city politics, pretty much forever).

    Your side is far from perfect. The sooner you admit that, the easier it will be to have a reasonable discussion.
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    Re: Conservative trashed DHS report now looking pretty accurate

    Quote Originally Posted by jonboy79 View Post
    "Call a spade a spade. liberals don't carry guns into pro-life organizations and kill people...liberals don't shoot security guards on duty in an Ellis Island exhibit. Why? Because liberals respect and seek out diversity of experience and people. Liberals respect the rights and life of everyone. Liberals don't live in fear nor respect those who use fear as a tool of persuasion. Generally speaking liberals are more worldly and simply more intelligent."
    This a true statement maybe minus the word intelligent. I take that back as I am sure there are plenty of conservatives that have substantial raw IQ...what they do with it probably more the issue. I have traveled and lived abroad as much if not more than I have been in the states for the past 25 years of my life. I promise you that people I have encoumtered, met and befriended are in a 10-1 ratio liberal to conservative thought. I don't know why that is but it is rare to meet someone in a developing nation (other than the occasional misguided missionary) that speaks from a conservative stand.

    THat is the most absurd, ridiculous, ignorant and childish paragraph of thought I have ever read on a message board. And my response as always to being called racist? Same as always... hating white people is racist too G7
    ...

    I think it is funny that you think I hate white people just becasue I make it a point to point out racist a bigoted thought on message boards. I promise you that I pass as easily as a white guy as you do.


    And I'm not defending any murders, but to say that a senile old white man's actions are representative of conservative belief is far more fallacious then anything I have stated in this thread. He did a horrible thing, but my point was that people on yoru side are doing it on a daily basis, with people on your side covering it up and looking the other way(see Baltimore city politics, pretty much forever).
    His thought is extremist right which is exactly what the DHS report warned against as well as with Tiller's killer. The right ridiculed this report in their self-righteous way as being unpatriotic when anyone with half a iota of awareness could see and can still see how right wing rethoric is not only very skewed but inflamatory and dangerous. You can't keep spewing about socialism, tyranny, big black bogeymen and not expect some to become unhinged and think they are saving the country.




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    Re: Conservative trashed DHS report now looking pretty accurate

    Quote Originally Posted by Galen Sevinne View Post

    I think it is funny that you think I hate white people just becasue I make it a point to point out racist a bigoted thought on message boards. I promise you that I pass as easily as a white guy as you do.
    .
    No, I think yoiur post history indicates a severe dislike for America and especially white men. Yet my point is bigoted after an election when 98% OR MORE of all African American's voted Democrat(Liberal)? It's simple observation, it wasn't an opinion.

    Point out one or two murders a year, and forget about the liberal politicians brushing hundreds under the carpet. Sounds smart.




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    Re: Conservative trashed DHS report now looking pretty accurate

    http://www.ravens24x7.com/forum/newr...ote=1&p=147021

    Great job rushing to judgement.

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