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  1. Re: Sporting News Today - Ngata 4th best

    Quote Originally Posted by UKRavenGordon View Post
    3 LBs and 1 DE/OLB
    2 LB and 2 DE/OLB. what's your point?





  2. Re: Sporting News Today - Ngata 4th best

    Quote Originally Posted by baltimore_hokie View Post
    2 LB and 2 DE/OLB. what's your point?
    You said we had 4 LBs on the field, we didn't.





  3. #51

    Re: Sporting News Today - Ngata 4th best

    Quote Originally Posted by UKRavenGordon View Post
    You said we had 4 LBs on the field, we didn't.
    It is inaccurate to say that Suggs and JJ are not Both LBers, despite how they are "currently" lined up. If you move from the 4-3 to 3-4 withour changing personnel, you have 4 LBers on the field....





  4. Re: Sporting News Today - Ngata 4th best

    Quote Originally Posted by UKRavenGordon View Post
    You said we had 4 LBs on the field, we didn't.
    dude, all 4 guys we have out there have the ability to play a linebacker role and drop into coverage. same players, same system no matter if there hand is down or not.





  5. #53

    Re: Sporting News Today - Ngata 4th best

    Why is this turning into an argument about what our OLB/ DE players do?

    Nagta is a beast. He may never get a lot of sacks, but he does make a lot of plays just by pushing the man in front of him back on almost every snap. He is basically a guard on D. his main job is to block for the linebackers, and play sort of like an O lineman on D on pass plays as well. That is also why he makes a great redzone TE and Grubbs got snap as a goal line DT. Blocking and beating the block, moving the line of scrimmage is a huge part of the game. Most of the DTs that get sacks and tackles for loss, do it by getting by a guy, not by going through them like Nagta is asked to do when he does rush and not drop into the short zones like they ask him to do effectivly.





  6. Re: Sporting News Today - Ngata 4th best

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremiah W View Post
    Why is this turning into an argument about what our OLB/ DE players do?

    Nagta is a beast. He may never get a lot of sacks, but he does make a lot of plays just by pushing the man in front of him back on almost every snap. He is basically a guard on D. his main job is to block for the linebackers, and play sort of like an O lineman on D on pass plays as well. That is also why he makes a great redzone TE and Grubbs got snap as a goal line DT. Blocking and beating the block, moving the line of scrimmage is a huge part of the game. Most of the DTs that get sacks and tackles for loss, do it by getting by a guy, not by going through them like Nagta is asked to do when he does rush and not drop into the short zones like they ask him to do effectivly.
    I'm done arguing with you now. That statement right there has ended any chance of a rational conversation. A Great redzone TE?





  7. Re: Sporting News Today - Ngata 4th best

    haha yeah, little bit of a stretch there, JW





  8. #56

    Re: Sporting News Today - Ngata 4th best

    How many times did we run the ball right behind one of his blocks for an easy TD? Red zone TE has to run block like a tackle and Nagta does it better than most of our tackles. Look back at some of the redzone TD runs. Nagta is out there crushing dudes and driving them like a sled.

    He does have decent hands as well and would catch the ball if no one covers him.

    I am not speculating here. Check the tape. He already did all that stuff and played a lot of snaps at TE.





  9. Re: Sporting News Today - Ngata 4th best

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremiah W View Post
    How many times did we run the ball right behind one of his blocks for an easy TD? Red zone TE has to run block like a tackle and Nagta does it better than most of our tackles. Look back at some of the redzone TD runs. Nagta is out there crushing dudes and driving them like a sled.

    He does have decent hands as well and would catch the ball if no one covers him.

    I am not speculating here. Check the tape. He already did all that stuff and played a lot of snaps at TE.

    Answer to Question 1: Zero. Nadda. Zip. None.

    Lot of snaps at TE? Try maybe 10.





  10. #58

    Re: Sporting News Today - Ngata 4th best

    Quote Originally Posted by UKRavenGordon View Post
    Answer to Question 1: Zero. Nadda. Zip. None.

    Lot of snaps at TE? Try maybe 10.
    We scored behind him a minimum of twice that I remember... Running literally right behind Ngata...

    Is he great, NO, the fact that he played simply showed our weakness in that area last season.





  11. #59

    Re: Sporting News Today - Ngata 4th best

    Quote Originally Posted by UKRavenGordon View Post
    Answer to Question 1: Zero. Nadda. Zip. None.

    Lot of snaps at TE? Try maybe 10.
    OK how about in the playoffs?

    http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-h...-Steelers-2008

    Looks like 92 blocking 56 down the line for a walk in by Willis to that side.

    Nag gata on Harrison on the 1st TD.

    http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-h...hee-highlights





  12. Re: Sporting News Today - Ngata 4th best

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremiah W View Post
    OK how about in the playoffs?

    http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-h...-Steelers-2008

    Looks like 92 blocking 56 down the line for a walk in by Willis to that side.

    Nag gata on Harrison on the 1st TD.

    http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-h...hee-highlights
    McLain blocks two players in that clip, on the outside... allowing him to walk into the end zone.





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