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    Re: Now, Let's Talk Draft



    In round one we're in almost the ideal position where RBs are tending to fall for recent years, though a fair few teams ahead of us I can see picking up backs.

    If Chris Chester slides inside to centre then I'm all for picking up Justin Blalock to play RG and then I think we're just looking for depth behind a line of Terry, Brown, Chester, Blalock and Pashos for the future.

    At CB I'm intrigued where we go, Pittman can no way be pronounced as a bust yet, he's a first year guy out of a small school, he's got the talent but it just takes time for these kids from small schools to come through. I'd not be surprised to see us go through FA for corner and wait on Pittman who I'm sure I've heard De Costa comment a couple of times on how highly he rates him.

    Clearly we will be looking at QBs and one for round 2 that I really hope we take a long look at is Trent Edwards of Stanford. Never had a lot of talent around him down there but he has all the tools and when in the pros with more talent around him he won't have to force things and should flourish in the pros.




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    Re: Now, Let's Talk Draft

    I'm a certified hugger, but you don't pass up a bargain, and Kyle can use some competition down the road. Colt Brennan strikes me as a good way to provide that. I was unable to locate a good profile on him, so here's a brief blurb...
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    "Brennan joined Hawaii in 2005 and quickly grabbed the starting spot at quarterback. He started 10 of 12 games, the only games he did not start being against USC and San Diego State. Brennan either tied or broke 11 UH offensive records in what was a wildly successful first season with the Warriors. Brennan led the country in total offense yards (4,455) and touchdowns thrown (35). His 4,301 yards passing is the eighth-most in Western Athletic Conference history. Against New Mexico State (Oct. 15), Brennan posted career-high numbers in passing yards (515), touchdowns (7), and pass completions (38). He also had nine 300+ yard performances on the season, including four 400+ yard games and a 515-yard performance.

    Brennan entered the 2006 NCAA Division I-A football season as the undisputed starter at quarterback, was named to multiple award watch lists and was voted the WAC's preseason offensive player of the year. He led the nation in scoring and passing efficiency, finishing the regular season with a 182.8 rating, and completed 72.15% of his passes, the best mark in Division I-A.

    During the regular season, Brennan passed for 53 touchdowns, one shy of the NCAA Division I-A single-season touchdown record of 54 (set in 1990 by David Klingler of The University of Houston). On December 24, 2006, at the Hawaii Bowl, Brennan threw for 5 touchdowns to break the record. (Stats accumulated during the post season now count towards records).[3] The Warriors finished the regular season with a 11-3 record, placing second in the WAC behind Boise State.

    Brennan finished sixth in the 2006 Heisman race, behind winner Troy Smith, Darren McFadden, Brady Quinn, Steve Slaton, and Mike Hart.[4] During the regular season, Colt Brennan threw for 4,990 yards, 53 touchdowns, and the highest passer efficiency in America. Should Brennan return for his senior season, he is expected to be a top contender for the 2007 Heisman.[5] According to Hawaii's coach June Jones, "Colt is a money guy. Colt is what I said he is: the best college quarterback in America, and he proved it tonight." [6] Brennan plans to submit his name to the NFL's underclassman advisory committee to gauge where pro scouts and personnel directors project he'd be selected in the NFL Draft.[1] Brennan is currently 50-50 on whether he will declare for the draft.[7] He has scheduled a press conference on January 15, 2007 to announce his decision on whether to turn professional.
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    Re: Now, Let's Talk Draft

    Colt Brennan is an intriguing QB prospect, but I have heard he is just a product of the Hawaii system and inferior competition. I suspect that if we drafted Colt, there will be Colt huggers and Colt haters. Plus the first name would really spark talk around here.


    What is the issue with Drew Stanton?

    As far as OL is concerned, Viv and bulldog talked about how there is not much available at OL outside of Justin Blalock and he could go in the mid rounds. They also mentioned that the RB class is not great outside of Lynch and Peterson (if he comes out) and Bush.

    I still say to go DE/LB or CB with that first pick unless someone falls.
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    Re: Now, Let's Talk Draft

    Colt Brennan is going back to school (3rd year) and will likely be the top QB prospect in the '08 draft




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    Colt Brennan is a junior and has not decided whether he is returning for his senior season. Returning to school cost Leinart millions, so I doubt Brennan makes that same mistake.
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    Brennan is not a top prospect. He'd be insane to come out this year just to go in the middle rounds and sit for an eternity. He should go back to Hawai'i, break some more records, have a ton of fun and then let the Draft happen for him. He's not gonna be a top prospect next year either in all likelihood.

    Brohm going back to school is interesting and barring a bad year next year he'll be a first round prospect next year and one of the top QBs.




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    Re: Now, Let's Talk Draft

    http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/6370448

    Brohm is returning for his senoir season. Bad idea.
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    I got bored and surfed up some mocks....I agree, bad idea for Brohm. He'll be a 1st rounder and the new regime could destroy his draft status.

    Here are the top few guys that are getting pegged to us
    The big Five
    1) Michael Bush RB:
    1a) Troy Smith QB: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhDt75OXfc0
    2) Kenny Irons RB Auburn: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQDpm...elated&search=
    http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...irons%22&hl=en
    3) Buster Davis ILB Florida:
    4) Quentin Moses DE Georgia

    Random other guys
    Lamarr Woodley OLB/DE Michigan
    Ryan Kalil C USC
    Drew Stanton QB Mich St.
    Joe Stanley OT C. Mich.
    Justin Blalock OG/OT Texas
    Arron Sears OT Tenn.
    Lawrence Timmons OLB FL.
    Mkristo Bruce, DE Washington State
    Levi Brown OT Penn. St.
    Marshawn Lynch RB Cal.


    So seems that we're getting pegged for OT/RB/QB.
    I'd flip out if Lynch was around at pick 28/29.....Bush I think would be a great addition to this sqaud. Bush-Anderson is a great combination.
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    Brohm probably wouldn't have gone ahead of Russell or Quinn in this draft, but he instantly becomes one of the favorites to be the No. 1 overall pick in 2008. Staying in school was not a bad idea at all.

    Brennan isn't the typical Hawaii QB, he has a good arm, can make all the throws has good mobility and good poise. He's a very good prospect and depending on his workouts, he'll go anywhere from the late 1st to the late 2nd. Brohm not being in the draft only helps his draft ranking.

    The biggest issue with Stanton is inconsistency. One time you'll see him and think that he's better than any of the QBs in this draft, Quinn and Russell included. Other times, he come off as be being no better than an undrafted free agent.




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    Re: Now, Let's Talk Draft

    Random stuff:

    1. Here is some info on Kenny Irons from scout.com.

    "League scouts are keen to watch running back Kenny Irons this year. A quick ball-carrier who shows a burst through hole, Irons immediately gets into the clearing and can run to daylight if given a small amount of open space. What excites scouts is the way Irons improved on a weekly basis last year. Irons lacks classic size yet offers first round talent. Courtney Taylor is a consistent "


    2. The more I think of our current CB depth, the less likely I see our first pick being a CB. It depends on what they still think of Pittman despite Pittman's poor work ethic. If we do draft a CB in the first round, then that spells the end to Pittman.


    3. I would look at even adding YES another WR in this draft. Here me out. Darling and Moore are both RFAs and I doubt either will be back. That leaves us with Clayton, Williams, and Mason. We will need to add at least two WRs even if we keep Darling around. I will look up some WR prospects and , don't cringe, I would entertain giving Charles Rogers a try out. I would also think about signing Kelley Washington who is a UFA.
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    The more video I see, the more I think Kenny Irons is a better choice for us compared to Bush. Hits the hole fast, breaks tackles....can he catch is going to be the big concern. If he can't, then all of that doesn't matter...not looking really great though.

    PROS
    Irons has good speed, and runs very hard. Has great vision and hits the whole hard. For a smaller sized running back he fights very hard and does not give up after the first hit.

    CONS
    Had a down senior year. A little small for a running back and needs to put on some more weight. Needs to work on catching out of the backfield.

    Strengths:
    Displays good vision and instincts and is a natural runner...Is more quick than fast...Patient but he will explode through the hole when it opens...Will run with authority and plays like a much bigger back...Good athleticism and the agility to change directions...Is dangerous in space and will run away from people...Gets the most out of every run...Doesn't have a lot of mileage on his tires...You simply can't ignore the history his school has of sending guys at his position to the pros.

    Weaknesses:
    Timed speed is only average...He does not have the type of size, strength or bulk you'd prefer...Appears to have okay hands but his experience as a receiver in the passing game is limited...Does his best as a blocker but is only adequate and will get overwhelmed...Ball security is an issue...Was hurt a lot in '06 and durability is a concern...Has to keep his pad level down...Does not break a ton of tackles and won't run people over...Did not have the senior campaign most were expecting.
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    1) Troy Smith - No thank you, not until day two, he just isn't a first rounder by any stretch of the imagination. Florida game against top talent in a big game hurts him, his measurables are poor as well and he has character issues as well. Fair enough thinking he'll be good, but he ain't first round material and you don't draft on gut instinct, certainly don't reach that far.

    2) Getting some games of Arron Sears, Joe Staley, Justin Blalock, Lamar Woodley and Quentin Moses soon so will be able to give a stronger opinion on them in a couple of weeks or so.

    3) Keep an eye on Anthony Spencer of Purdue. Good hand down DE but also shows pretty good versatility and athleticism as well.




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    To be honest, for QB I'd love to get Chris Leak in round 4....I agree about spencer...depends on AD.

    I can also see a Franchise Tag and trade of AD, we'd be able to get a 3rd in trade certainly, and teams like the 49ers have tons of cap space and need defensive playmakers.




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    We need a new RB in a big way. Jamal just can't do enough to make the offense dynamic. I would be happy w/ a rookie/Mike Anderson rotation. I am sick of Jamal and is tippy toes. All he can do is move the chains on a 50/50 basis. His RB type is a dinosaur in the NFL....just look around the league.
    Smaller, quicker RBs that can catch on the run and turn the corner are the norm.

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    Adrian Peterson has declared for the draft. This is the guy I want and I think he will be there around 29. Teams will be scared of his injury to take him high in the first round. I think Lynch goes before Peterson. I would take either Peterson or Michael Bush and pair him with either Jamal or Mike Anderson.
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