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  1. #46

    Re: Now, Let's Talk Draft



    Quote Originally Posted by ExiledRaven View Post
    The more video I see, the more I think Kenny Irons is a better choice for us compared to Bush. Hits the hole fast, breaks tackles....can he catch is going to be the big concern. If he can't, then all of that doesn't matter...not looking really great though.

    PROS
    Irons has good speed, and runs very hard. Has great vision and hits the whole hard. For a smaller sized running back he fights very hard and does not give up after the first hit.

    CONS
    Had a down senior year. A little small for a running back and needs to put on some more weight. Needs to work on catching out of the backfield.

    Strengths:
    Displays good vision and instincts and is a natural runner...Is more quick than fast...Patient but he will explode through the hole when it opens...Will run with authority and plays like a much bigger back...Good athleticism and the agility to change directions...Is dangerous in space and will run away from people...Gets the most out of every run...Doesn't have a lot of mileage on his tires...You simply can't ignore the history his school has of sending guys at his position to the pros.

    Weaknesses:
    Timed speed is only average...He does not have the type of size, strength or bulk you'd prefer...Appears to have okay hands but his experience as a receiver in the passing game is limited...Does his best as a blocker but is only adequate and will get overwhelmed...Ball security is an issue...Was hurt a lot in '06 and durability is a concern...Has to keep his pad level down...Does not break a ton of tackles and won't run people over...Did not have the senior campaign most were expecting.
    All these great comments are true, but I would bet that Irons is not on Ozzie's draft board. He will find something wrong with him. Do a little research - in Ozzie's entire career he has NEVER drafted a player from Auburn. No matter how great the talent (ahem - we took Pittman over Marcus McNeil remember) They will find something wrong with him and find a reason for the Alabama guy not to find anything good coming out of Auburn




  2. #47

    Re: Now, Let's Talk Draft

    Quote Originally Posted by donnaj View Post
    All these great comments are true, but I would bet that Irons is not on Ozzie's draft board. He will find something wrong with him. Do a little research - in Ozzie's entire career he has NEVER drafted a player from Auburn. No matter how great the talent (ahem - we took Pittman over Marcus McNeil remember) They will find something wrong with him and find a reason for the Alabama guy not to find anything good coming out of Auburn
    Marcus Mcneil was picked with the 50th overall pick in the 2nd round,while David Pittman was pick 87 in the 3rd round

    Ozzie Newsome is employed by the Ravens and his job is to bring in the BEST players regardless of what school they went to,and so far he has done a pretty good job doing so.

    I doubt he would let a bias come in to play especially in the first round of the draft.




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    Re: Now, Let's Talk Draft

    I need to clear something up. I originally posted that we would be picking 29th, but that is incorrect.

    Our official draft position is 27th with SD at 28. This information comes from draft.com, the official site for the various drafts.

    Sorry guys.
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  4. #49

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    Depending on what San Diego does with Michael Turner I would just assume trade our first round pick to them rather than use it to draft a running back.




  5. #50

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    i've heard the michael turner rumors, not sure what we would have to give up to get him but he's probably better than any other back we could get at that spot.




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    Re: Now, Let's Talk Draft

    I have been reading through the nfldraftcountdown data base, and I have to say that I am not really impressed with this 2007 draft crop. I would have to really think about a Michael Turner for our first rounder deal.
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  7. #52

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    I'll agree on that one....which is why you might see us picking an OT/OG or some kind of olb/de tweener or a traditional LB. They tend to get overlooked.




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    Re: Now, Let's Talk Draft

    I'm pretty sure our first round pick will either be a RB, a OG that is READY like Blalock, or trade down. Unless someone with crazy talent falls. I don't think we can get a starter at 27 at CB.




  9. #54

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sephy View Post
    I'm pretty sure our first round pick will either be a RB, a OG that is READY like Blalock, or trade down. Unless someone with crazy talent falls. I don't think we can get a starter at 27 at CB.
    The two times I remember us picking at the end of the first round, we took guys with crazy talent who had fallen. Ed Reed, Todd Heap.

    I expect this year will be the same; give me someone with crazy talent, any position.
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  10. #55

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    I'm pretty sure our first round pick will either be a RB, a OG that is READY like Blalock, or trade down. Unless someone with crazy talent falls. I don't think we can get a starter at 27 at CB.
    The two times I remember us picking at the end of the first round, we took guys with crazy talent who had fallen. Ed Reed, Todd Heap.

    I expect this year will be the same; give me someone with crazy talent, any position.
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    I love Michael Turner but honestly I would be more inclined to giving the pick up if it was in the 10-19 range. That's where we draft the Travis Taylors, Duane Starks, and Kyle Bollers of the world. In the 1-10 and 20-32 range they are money,,,,,,,




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    Re: Now, Let's Talk Draft

    Hey, it can happen, it has before. Those all happened to be need positions as well.

    I just wonder if we'll see any at our true need positions there. Namely OL, CB, and RB.




  12. #57

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H17lK3Z4_a0

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5kA59Xnhew

    I want him, no one expected steven jackson to fall as far as he did or Larry Johnson. It's official this is the guy I want as our pick.

    As I watch him outrun people to the corner I keep saying/thinking to myself, Damn If only Jamal could have done that a few times this year how different things would have been......




  13. #58

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    I don't think we should draft an offensive lineman in the first round unless it's just a monster pick that we have to make (If the Blaylock kid is as good as everyone thinks he is for example).

    I'd probably be willing to give up my first rounder to the Chargers for Turner if we could get their second or third rounder as well. In a draft like this, there isn't much difference outside of the top 10 so filling a need and keeping another first day pick is a great plan.

    Now would the Chargers do this? I kind of doubt it, though it would help both teams. Unless I'm mistaken Turner is a FA next year and the Chargers could really use someone outside of Gates/Tomlinson to throw the ball to. With two first rounders they could pick up a WR and a DB (another area they need help in). Of course they could also package Turner and their first rounder to a team in the top 10 and get a stud.
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    Re: Now, Let's Talk Draft

    I like Marshawn a LOT. If he dropped, that pick is an absolute no brainer.




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    His freshman highlights are even more impressive:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u954R...elated&search=

    You can see how he's a weapon in the passing game as well, screen and real patterns.




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