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    Quote Originally Posted by jonboy79 View Post
    I gotta say it made me chukcle. Are you(relatives) from Scotland or Whales? France, Spain, Portugal? Italy, Greece? Other? I'm pretty sure I'm correct in pegging you as western european descent. Correct?
    Wrong...I was born in a small town (believe it or not) called Batman in Eastern Turkey...of Kurdish decent. No I am not muslim nor am I a terrorist. I believe not in guns nor gods. That makes me extremely safe...lol. My people were fighting the Iraqis long before it was a popular thing to do but we had honest reasons.








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    what are you wearing jon-boy,????????????,,,
    galen , you say that you are not a terrorist but your socialist ideas are scaring the crap out of me.
    obama is taking a page right out of hitler's playbook,,,, again read your history, those that don't remember history are doomed to repeat it,,,,
    I hope I am wrong but when they come to take away my guns, they will have to pry them from my cold dead body,,,




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    galen, the turks hate the greeks, everyone knows that, you were fighting the iraqs for honest reasons???????????????????? What like 5000 years ago someone stole one of your relatives sheep??????? the middle eastern people have been fighting so long they know not why...... HONEST REASONS? LMAO




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    Quote Originally Posted by LOT"H"TAILGATER View Post
    What like 5000 years ago someone stole one of your relatives sheep???????
    actually that would be an honest reason.








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    Religious difference are not "honest" nor are any reason to start any war -- yet it's the reason for the majority of the worlds conflicts.
    WARNING: This post may contain material offensive to those who lack wit, humor, common sense and/or supporting factual or anecdotal evidence. All statements and assertions contained herein may be subject to literary devices not limited to: irony, metaphor, allusion and dripping sarcasm.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Galen Sevinne View Post
    Wrong...I was born in a small town (believe it or not) called Batman in Eastern Turkey...of Kurdish decent. No I am not muslim nor am I a terrorist. I believe not in guns nor gods. That makes me extremely safe...lol. My people were fighting the Iraqis long before it was a popular thing to do but we had honest reasons.
    Interesting. I could tell you weren't of African Descent, Galen is a greek based name, and Sevinne seemed french to me. You have a VERY European view on the world. I hope you do not take offense to my "guessing".




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    Quote Originally Posted by jonboy79 View Post
    Interesting. I could tell you weren't of African Descent, Galen is a greek based name, and Sevinne seemed french to me. You have a VERY European view on the world. I hope you do not take offense to my "guessing".
    Although I did spend a year at the U. of London, I have never been drawn to Europe. Its ok...I spent many a weekend in Amsterdam. Those were good times...but they were indulgent. Europe is a bit soft for the most part.

    My thinking comes more from time in Latin American countries...that is where true heart exists. Sandino, Ernesto, Zapata. Excess of anything, other than time, breeds unhappiness. You'll never convince anyone of that on this board though. That's about an anti-american perspective as you will ever hear but the majority of the rest of the world understands it.

    Excess has always been what has brought down the great cultures of time but don't tell anyone that becasue then you hear the barrage of negative "isms". Even those who claim to use history as their guide only are really looking at the present when it comes down to it.

    I wouldn't take much from my name.








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    Quote Originally Posted by 4G63 View Post
    That over-educated elitist? Nah...that's not me.








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    Whatever Steele's issues are at least he isn't Obama who is looking like a train wreck. He is going through Commerce Secretaries like lactose goes through me.




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    Quote Originally Posted by jonboy79 View Post
    Galen, please tell me about all fo the Teachers, Firemen, Police Officers that are employed by the federal government.
    Also the goverment funds projects(i.e. work) for people that have JOBS in the private sector. that is what you are referring to with Road Crews. The gov't is providing WORK, not JOBS.
    This is complete stupidity. Just how many roads do you drive on that are privately owned? Huh? C'mon now... name one. Developers create residential roads, even partially fund commercial streets to develop a , say, shopping center. But They are all, within one to two years turned over to City, county, state, or Federal ownership. Who, then, pays for their upkeep?, how safe is our infrastructure?, how much dire need is there for repairs?
    I case you didn't know the Federal government covers about 70 % of these costs for all states. Every state road project has a state project number, and a FAIP(federal aid project) number. Now, the stimulus, if you can read, and comprehend, is not supposed to revitalize the economy. It's goal is to save jobs, and create some new. Now, who do you think does the work? NOT FEDERAL employees, but private contractors... Salvaging these jobs and employers is a very important thing to this country. AND, if you think that eliminating construction companies will strengthen our economy, you are sadly mistaken.
    So, if workers are laid off en masse, creating a drain on unemployment funds, and big corporations buy up all the businesses for pennies on the dollar, and then receive tax cuts for doing so, so they can create more jobs? while they just destroyed jobs? Then THEY can do all the road building, paid for by the federal government, and how does that help, or sustain the American dream? Where will the revenue come from? Soon, like farming, it will all be owned by corporate America, and we will be a nation of rich, and poor, there will be no middle class
    You people who think that tax cuts (for the wealthiest) are the answer to the problem need to have enough fore sight to see where that eventually will lead. it will lead to 95% of America living a mere existence, while Corporate America controls you and me, and everything else in existence. The cycle is NOT endless, and the end is the destruction of "America for the people, and by the people!"




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    Please tell me how that refuted my point at all? Do you not understqnd the difference between work and jobs, I think AI clearly outlined thar. This bill AT BEST saves some jobs, if only temporarily, or temporarily adds jobs created by the private sector, benefitting from public funding.




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    Quote Originally Posted by jonboy79 View Post
    Please tell me how that refuted my point at all? Do you not understqnd the difference between work and jobs, I think AI clearly outlined thar. This bill AT BEST saves some jobs, if only temporarily, or temporarily adds jobs created by the private sector, benefitting from public funding.
    You're right, I did not do a good job of putting it all together..It would have taken three or 4 pages to do the subject justice. However, a few things. First , as I stated this stimulus is not designed to GROW the economy, necessarily, but to attempt to prevent the further staggering loss of jobs.
    As in the Great Depression, the federal spending will not repair the economy, but the money spent then, for a large part was spent on infrastructure that served this country well when we joined in the war against Germany and Japan. The producing factories would have had a hard time delivering the goods produced to defeat the Nazis on the infrastructure that existed prior to FDR's "socialist programs". There were very few miles of hard-surfaced roads in this country prior to his WPA, etc.
    Another result of FDR's programs is one that is not very often considered. During the great depression, large corporations, by and large, became stronger than ever. They were buying up businesses and properties by the thousands, which, left unchecked, could have left us a filthy rich, and poor society, with very little in between. The stage is set for that process to be completed, if nothing is done. "By the people and for the people" is not "by 2% of the people and the rest of you be damned," as far as I am concerned.
    The recession is not caused by the "middle class" so they should not be punished punitively by having their right to the pursuit of happiness removed from them.
    My point about jobs and companies saved by infrastructure work is a win, win situation. Our roads departments have been seeing their budgets cut exponentially for years, while our roads and bridges fall into the worst state if disrepair in decades. The fed is ultimately going to fund these projects, whenever they happen, anyway... And should have been funding them already, in many cases.... In the meantime, these companies who have been greatly hindered by these same "budget cuts" will be able to continue to be viable, and here to perform work when the economy rebounds, in the next part of the cycle.
    Imagine if the trillion spent in Iraq had been spent IN this country, for benefits for THIS country, instead of pouring it down a hole with defense contractors who have historically wasted over half of what has been paid them. Imagine if that money had not been spent to kill 4,000 of our own people and hundreds of thousands of Iraqis, but to improve OUR situation??




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    The only way to create wealth is to produce things that can be sold. You can't create wealth with government work. There are necessary functions of government but these necessary jobs are not even half of the ones we current "create" via governemnt. All government jobs are a drag on wealth, but the necessary ones must be paid for to create an environment for wealth creation (police, judicial, etc).




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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg View Post
    The only way to create wealth is to produce things that can be sold. You can't create wealth with government work. There are necessary functions of government but these necessary jobs are not even half of the ones we current "create" via governemnt. All government jobs are a drag on wealth, but the necessary ones must be paid for to create an environment for wealth creation (police, judicial, etc).
    The stimulus is not about creating wealth... no one says it is. And furthermore, infrastructure is as or more important to creating wealth as police, judicial, etc. If you cannot understand that, then I have no more to say! These jobs are not a "drag " on the economy, unless they are a "bridge to nowhere". Instead, they are a complete requirement to produce wealth.. I can't see how you don't understand that!




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