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    Great Start, Mr. President



    Poor Mr. Obama.

    I guess this is what we get when someone is elected with style over substance. His on-the-job trinaing is not going so well.

    First, he camapigned on transparency. That's fallen short. $350 Million in bank bail out money has gone to ... well, we dont know where it has gone because the White House is refusing to release the list of where funds are being distributed. But that's ok, at least it's not like him having a secret Blackberry .... oh, wait ....

    Then he stumped for 5-day citizen review for ALL non-emergency bills. He called it the "Hope and Change promise". Well, chalk that up to another campaign promise that went the way of the doh doh bird. Obama signed the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act and the S-CHIP bill within 3 days of being passed through Congress.

    Stumping for ethics reform for a year, Obama gets elected and nominates not one, not two, but four tax cheats to high level cabinet position.

    And the $1 Trillion spending .... er, I mean "stimulus" bill? People are wising up pretty quickly on that pig with lipstick.

    But hey, it's ok right? I mean, G7 told us this is the mandate to end all mandates. Times are a changin'. It's what the American Public wanted and got.

    Uh, well maybe not. He is now looking at the largest two week drop in approval ratings of any President in their first two weeks EVER.

    But hey, what do I know.
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    Re: Great Start, Mr. President

    Which can be succinctly summed up as the worst two weeks of presidential history, no? It's change all right, jsut not what people bargained for.




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    Re: Great Start, Mr. President

    Maybe.

    Clinton had a similar start and wound up being one of the most popular President's after leaving office.

    It's certainly not the demise of Obama. Yet. But the stakes are much more serious now then when Clinton was elected.
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    Re: Great Start, Mr. President

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post

    Then he stumped for 5-day citizen review for ALL non-emergency bills. He called it the "Hope and Change promise". Well, chalk that up to another campaign promise that went the way of the doh doh bird. Obama signed the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act and the S-CHIP bill within 3 days of being passed through Congress.
    True but I am not sure about its significance really. I am sure this alone was not the reason for any votes. I imagine smaller initiatives like this take some time to put into motion. Needless to say, it is still strong progressive legislation protecting health and human rights --- not something we are used to.

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    Stumping for ethics reform for a year, Obama gets elected and nominates not one, not two, but four tax cheats to high level cabinet position.
    I think this is one area that Obama would probably like to take back. That being said, Obama did engage in unethical behavior but was still able and willing to take his responsibility for the actions. Again, it is important to be clear that Obama was not unethical although listening to right wingers, one could be easily folled into thinking he was.


    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    And the $1 Trillion spending .... er, I mean "stimulus" bill? People are wising up pretty quickly on that pig with lipstick.
    matter of opinion. there are a lot of strong progressive measures in the bill just because you aren't progressive doesn't mean there aren't good qualities to the bill. A lot of the problems are in how they are being framed by the conservative media.

    For example...upgrading government fleets to hybrids. According to Obama:

    Now, I read the other day that critics of this plan ridiculed our notion that we should use part of the money to modernize the entire fleet of federal vehicles to take advantage of state-of-the-art fuel efficiency. This is what they called pork. You know the truth. It will not only save the government significant money over time, it will not only create manufacturing jobs for folks who are making these cars, it will set a standard for private industry to match.

    And so when you hear these attacks, deriding something of such obvious importance as this, you have to ask yourself: Are these folks serious? Is it any wonder we haven't had a real energy policy in this country?


    This provisions works well for the environment, creates jobs, saves money on energy. Good stuff for environmentally concerned indivudals. Of course you won't like it because you don't think in that manner but is it Pork? Not to me.

    Obama is taking blows from every angle by the resentful right. He is still standing and will be ok.








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    Re: Great Start, Mr. President

    Hybrids don't save money at all with gas prices where they are.

    That said, that is one of the better parts of the bill.

    I'm more concerned with $25m for ATV trails etc.
    I'm even more concerned with the fact that Obama is EXACTLY like he said he would not be. Lying, stealing....

    Oh sorry, "changing his mind" and "mistakes on taxes".




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    Re: Great Start, Mr. President

    Quote Originally Posted by jonboy79 View Post
    Hybrids don't save money at all with gas prices where they are.

    That said, that is one of the better parts of the bill.

    I'm more concerned with $25m for ATV trails etc.
    I'm even more concerned with the fact that Obama is EXACTLY like he said he would not be. Lying, stealing....

    Oh sorry, "changing his mind" and "mistakes on taxes".
    Obama has lied? Stolen? I'm interested in that.








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    Re: Great Start, Mr. President

    Quote Originally Posted by jonboy79 View Post
    Hybrids don't save money at all with gas prices where they are.
    Hybrid technology doesn't really save money even at high gas prices because of the premium cost to create it currently. But by purchasing the technology and using it it is "stimulating" the production of a good technology which will increase the usefulness of it AND make this country the leader it future car production in the future. Obama's stimulus bill is full of this type of stuff. It just takes one to reason their way through it.

    There are those who would just rather attack Obama and call him a failure already instead of being objective with the bill. It will be paired down over time. There are a lot of provisions to protect jobs which will act as stimulus. I just heard today that a local school system is considering furloughing teachers. That has a really bad ripple effect on the economy.

    This isn't a joke nor is it a time to play partisan politcs which clearly has not been Obama's agenda much to his detriment.








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    Quote Originally Posted by Galen Sevinne View Post
    Obama has lied? Stolen? I'm interested in that.

    He is choosing thieves around him. Houston pointed out the lies. His campaign was empty words that were spoken to have a desired effect, that was all that was meant by them, do not read into any of them, they are hollow, and it's apparent they have very little to do with how he will run the country.




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    Re: Great Start, Mr. President

    Quote Originally Posted by Galen Sevinne View Post
    Hybrid technology doesn't really save money even at high gas prices because of the premium cost to create it currently. But by purchasing the technology and using it it is "stimulating" the production of a good technology which will increase the usefulness of it AND make this country the leader it future car production in the future. Obama's stimulus bill is full of this type of stuff. It just takes one to reason their way through it.

    There are those who would just rather attack Obama and call him a failure already instead of being objective with the bill. It will be paired down over time. There are a lot of provisions to protect jobs which will act as stimulus. I just heard today that a local school system is considering furloughing teachers. That has a really bad ripple effect on the economy.

    This isn't a joke nor is it a time to play partisan politcs which clearly has not been Obama's agenda much to his detriment.

    I actually said the Hybrid thing was one of my favorite parts. I am fully understanding of why a largescale order of the cars would benefit the economy in a fairly meaningful if longterm way. BTW, jsut becuase gas prices are low doesn't mean we don't have an energy crisis as well.

    Partisan politics? escuse me? this spending bill is as diversive and partisan as it gets?




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    Re: Great Start, Mr. President

    Quote Originally Posted by jonboy79 View Post
    He is choosing thieves around him. Houston pointed out the lies. His campaign was empty words that were spoken to have a desired effect, that was all that was meant by them, do not read into any of them, they are hollow, and it's apparent they have very little to do with how he will run the country.
    i don't think anything HR said would constitute a lie as much as a delay in what he wants to do...afterall is has been a whole two weeks. Obama hasn't stolen anything nor has he violated any ethical codes. I also wouldn't be so quick to say what has happened in the first two weeks of his presidency will be how the next four years will be run.

    What is going on right now is a hate war against Obama. If you don't see that in Rush's words, Cheney's words and the right wing press at this point, it would obviously be hard to convince you otherwise.

    everyone knew that the first time Obama left the toilet seat up, we would experience a full frontal attack. Its a shame but it is why the past 8 years have been as they are.

    Obama goes on the air tomorrow night and will fully address his plan. I expect to see the tides begin to turn. I don't doubt that Obama rights this ship and ultimately the republicans aren't seen exactly as they have been seen for the past 8 years. Obama gave them a chance to play and they chose to run their same old and tired tax cut, anti govt. spending, socialist, liberal-bashing agenda which is what has gotten us here in the first place.

    Republicans either continue to underestimate Obama as a politician or they undertestimate americans ability to see through their ruse. When employment numbers are released tomorrow there will be greater concern for stimulus - govt. spending stimulus. It is no coincidence that soon thereafter Obama will give first stimulus talk.








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    Re: Great Start, Mr. President

    It will STILL be GW's fault in 4 years.....if we do not get out of this funk.




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    Re: Great Start, Mr. President

    Delay of what he wants to do?????

    Wow, that's whistling past the graveyard if I ever heard it.

    I doubt you'd be so forgiving of the pol had (R) after his name.
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    Re: Great Start, Mr. President

    No, he would be talking abotu impeachment. I still can't believe such a large portion of our country got sold by this manure salesman.




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    Re: Great Start, Mr. President

    whatever, you guys are just being haters at this point...I never initially complained about Bush and was even supportive through his first two weeks...his first 8 months....through 9-11...and into Afghanistan. It wasn't until we went to Iraq where I started worrying about the the U.S. and it's international rep.

    At the time I was in Ecuador drinking chicha one night trying to convince locals that terrorism needed to be defeated. It was the first time I was asked by a local professor about Iraq and what had they done to us? I had no answer. Its those moments that force one to question the direction of one's native country.

    On the other hand, you guys are flipping out in two weeks because Obama passes a bill for women's rights and medical care for uninsured kids...of which I will surely see coming through my office. That really seems petty to me in light of what is going on right now and has in the past 8 years.

    As Obama said last night in a rousing speech about those who complain about this being a spending bill:

    "I welcome this debate, but, come on, we are not going to get relief by turning back to the same policies that, for the last eight years, doubled our national debt, and threw our economy into a tail spin '' Obama said, with a passion unseen in public since the campaign trail. "We can't embrace the same old formula that says only tax cuts will address the problems we face.''

    Opponents say the plan is not a stimulus bill, it's a spending bill, he said. "What do you think stimulus is?'' Obama said, with visible frustration. "That's the point.''


    According to Gallup:




    "Here we go again. The official rate of national unemployment hit 7.6% in January, up another 0.4% in a month, at the cost of another 598,000 jobs. That's a job loss of 3.6 million in the past 13 months since the recession began in December 2007. The number of job losses last month were upped from 524,000 to 577,000."








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    Haters? Yes, sorry I want my president to be qualified and genuine. Sorry that I feel that spending a trillion dollars on garbage isn't going to help our country. Sorry that I'm scared of an impending attack now that defense finances were chopped dramatically. Sorry that I find it alarming that this guy is attempting to surround himself with liars and thieves.

    Socialism has proved inneffective all aroudn the world, but we can't talk abotu that, only that the MORON Bush didn't read his conservative playbook correctly, and THAT's why his taxcuts didn't work, they didn't come with cuts in spending. It didn't fail due to tax cuts, t failed due to spending. Now this donkey wants to increase taxes and spending? That's a double whammy gov't income will decresase and spending will spiral even further out of control.

    THE ONLY THING that can help us, is if someoen is willing to cut wasteful spending.




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