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08-30-2006, 04:19 PM #25
Re: Nestor/NST reaches new low
I won't flame away.
And I don't think he is a child molester.
But he picked up a girl from her HS, 16, 18, legal, whatever. That screams "SHE HAS NO BUSINESS GETTING SEXUALLY INVOLVED WITH MEN MORE THAN THREE TIMES HER AGE!" Even if she were 18.
And didn't he pay her for the act? If so, I think there is another charge you are missing, and that is one I have not committed. And the only time I fooled around with teenaged girls was when I was a teenager.
Okay, he is not a child molester. He's still a dirty old man.
And are we to assume this was the first time he engaged in this kind of thing?
P.S. If Nestor hires him that wil be the last time I turn WNST on.
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08-30-2006, 04:25 PM #26On The Practice Squad
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Re: Nestor/NST reaches new low
Greg - according to Art's story and the charges that were dropped, he gave her $20 AFTER the act occurred and did not "promise" her any money prior to the meeting. Evidently, that's why the charges (on that count) were not pursued. Had they agreed on money/compensation BEFORE the act occurred he would have been charged - along with her.
Again, I'm not in any way, shape or form condoning what he did. He got what he got from the court in Howard County and it's up to THEM to decide if the crime met the punishment.
A 61-year old and a 16 (or 18) year old is wrong. We all know that. He knows that.
But there's a big difference between "wrong" and "illegal". Art was "wrong" on probably a dozen counts in that incident. He was "illegal" on just one count.
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08-30-2006, 04:26 PM #27
Re: Nestor/NST reaches new low
Originally Posted by Greg
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08-30-2006, 05:01 PM #28
Re: Nestor/NST reaches new low
Hey Drew, I'm a standup guy, when you're right, you're right. According to the law, Art did not molest a child and I retract the inference. I was disgusted by the whole thing and made a sarcastic statement.
You know what would have been cool though? You using that same anger and words like "asinine" and "dangerous" towards Art this morning, instead of practically coddling him. I realize that you guys have a long relationship but wow! A 61 year old man in the public eye going after a 16 year old girl?!? It's kind of infuriating, maybe you'd feel the same if she was your daughter. Anyways, my wording was 100% wrong and I apologize to Art. All I'm asking for is the same 'coddling' deal. Thanks man.
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08-30-2006, 05:06 PM #29On The Practice Squad
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Larry, you're right, you evidently are a stand-up guy. Thanks.
I didn't have to beat up Art today. He did that to himself, I thought.
He called himself "dangerous" and "irresponsible" and "reckless" and "sick".
Had I thought at any time he was seeking to downplay what happened, I might have very well stepped in. But that didn't happen. If you thought I coddled him, so be it. I just thought it was more appropriate for Art to chastise himself since he seemed relegated to doing so.
If you recall, the day the story broke and I was talking about it on the air, I was quite vocal in my displeasure for Art, friend of mine since 1981 or not.
But today, like YOU just did, Art was a stand-up guy and took the blame for what he did and was extremely open about how it happened, why it happened and what steps he's taking to ensure it won't happen again.
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08-30-2006, 05:17 PM #30
Re: Nestor/NST reaches new low
Drew, fair enough, thanks. I was a huge Blast fan in the mid 80's and met Art & Charlie quite a few times at the games. They treated us great even though we were, uh, sort of rowdy teenagers at the time. The whole thing just shocked me I guess & it was the last thing I expected to hear this morning.
Anyways, let's move on & wish all concerned the best.
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08-30-2006, 05:30 PM #31Veteran Poster
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More evidence of the horrendous sports radio in this town.
And then the co-host of the show comes on and repeatedly says how his buddy "thought" she was 18 even though he went to her school and picked her up?
Oh, and way to explain away the 20 bucks. He didn't promise it to her before? Good for him. What a guy. He just gave it to her out of the kindness of his heart.
How pathetic.
Drew, we've disagreed on the other board before about sports stuff and but at least we kept it to sports.
You were best served to remain just a reader and not gotten involved in this thread.
Or at least just typed one line about him not technically being a child molestor. That's a real feather in his cap.
Unreal.
PP
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08-30-2006, 05:42 PM #32On The Practice Squad
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Purple, you are no doubt always going to win these "debates" because, as most people will attest who have seen your work, you're never wrong.
The $20 bucks thing was brought up to merely point out why he wasn't charged with a crime. It doesn't change the overall nature of what Art did and it certainly doesn't make him any less reckless. No one said that. What the issue DOES relate to is "CRIMINAL ACTIVITY"...breaking the law, etc. And because he didn't promise her any money BEFORE they met or during any of their on-line conversations, he was not found to have committed a crime.
Giving her $20 after the fact because he felt guilty or felt it somehow made it more "acceptable" (in his distorted mind -- his words today, not mine) is WRONG, but it's not a criminal act in our great state and in the court of Howard County.
I'm far more "best served" to talk about and write about this than you, PP.
You have an agenda, as usual. And when someone's ideas or comments don't mesh with yours, you attack. It's what you do best, actually.
In reality, YOU are probably best served to sit this one out, not me.
Art doesn't have any feathers in his cap. He nearly ruined his life. He spent time in jail. He doesn't have a job. He probably won't get one anytime soon. And he did that to himself and very few people feel sorry for him. Not many feathers in that cap he's wearing.
But, just like The Sun saw fit to give 28 column inches to Keith Mills last week to "tell his story", WNST saw fit to give Art Sinclair time today to "tell his story". There's no difference, really. Except The Sun costs you 50 cents.
And, if somewhere out there today, someone listening heard Art's story and it sounded painfully like something they're going through in their life right now, then some good WAS done out of Art being there today if that person decides to change their lifestyle before another 16-year old girl gets hurt.
Once the football writings start again, PP, feel free to contribute.
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08-30-2006, 05:46 PM #33
Re: Nestor/NST reaches new low
Originally Posted by purplepoe
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08-30-2006, 05:47 PM #34
Re: Nestor/NST reaches new low
Originally Posted by df1570
She is however, over the "age of consent" under the laws in this State.
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08-30-2006, 05:51 PM #35On The Practice Squad
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Re: Nestor/NST reaches new low
Fairly noted, B-More.
I think our great state needs to revisit all the laws pertaining to "age of consent", IMHO. I'm not sure how on earth that one got passed, but a 16-year old should NOT be allowed to consent to having sex.
Maybe our next new Governor will take that one on.
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08-30-2006, 05:52 PM #36
Re: Nestor/NST reaches new low
Originally Posted by df1570
I only caught a few minutes of the show today. Thanks for filling in the blanks.
Your post should be the end of the story, but I have a feeling it won't be.
I would hope that Art would be given every chance to redeem himself, much as Keith Mills has done/is doing.
When can we expect the Schmuck article. ;)She had me at "Hell, NO!"
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