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08-28-2006, 08:05 PM #37Rookie Poster
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Re: Is It Time To Trade For major Tarde OL Player
Anyone else surprised at the number trades other teams are pulling off so close to the season? I hope this trend continues because it could be really good for the league.
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08-28-2006, 08:19 PM #38
Re: Is It Time To Trade For major Tarde OL Player
I wonder if anyone with any sort of value will be cut. We could use a good OL for sure
Living in Houston, Tx....still living, eating, breathing the Ravens
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08-28-2006, 08:52 PM #39
Re: Is It Time To Trade For major Tarde OL Player
A lot has been said about our future O-lineman, which begs the question....Is Billick, being under the gun, mortgaging our future because of a must win mentality?
The O-line will be the last and final piece that Billick has not handled properly and, in so doing, will expose him for what he really is. Unfortunately at the expense of our future.
Keep in mind that I am not trying to play "negative Nelly" here. The "buck" has to start and end somewhere. Can you suggest another courtyard?SS
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08-28-2006, 09:04 PM #40
Re: Is It Time To Trade For major Tarde OL Player
Originally Posted by Raineman
And, how is Billick mortgaging our future? Just because he isn't playing young guys right now? Umm, most of those guys who aren't playing - Terry, Brown, Chester - will be here for at least 3 more years, so regardless of what happens this year, they are still the future. The bottom line is that if Billick, and the coaching staff, thought they could help now, they would play them - after all, having the best players playing gives the team its best chance to win, which would be Billick's best chance of keeping his job, right?Last edited by B-more Ravor; 08-28-2006 at 09:11 PM.
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08-28-2006, 09:04 PM #41Regular 1st Stringer
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Re: Is It Time To Trade For major Tarde OL Player
Since Billick is not the GM I would say know. Ozzie Newsome has ignored the line for years. In case people forget, the line sucked with Mitchell and Rabach and every other bargain rate scrub Ozzie has brought in the last 8 years.
How long did he ignore the wr adn qb position?
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08-28-2006, 09:24 PM #42
Re: Is It Time To Trade For major Tarde OL Player
Another courtyard has been suggested, and I never made Oz or Steve B. exempt in this either. They have given the players to BB. He is the one that chooses how to use them. If he is wrong, it is on him. But he chooses to be wrong (if that is the case) at the expense of our future by not getting valuable playing time and him actually expecting a different result with the same tools.
Once again BRavor- Nobody is exempt here. But someone has to take on the oneness, and Brian just seems to be the same "unscolded" self that he is. Excuse the analogy, but he could fast become the "T.O. of coaches" by giving us the same product with a different cover.
There was no secret that the O-line was the first and foremost priority that needed to be addressed this offseason. This was the consensus around most of the football genre. Yet it remains the most stagnant part of our team. Yes, it has been addressed, but with players that all need development (even in their second year) and not ones that can make an immediate impact. Draft was not an option. It was spent on D-line (which I agree was needed-as far as Ray was concerned) and our inability to acquire impacting free agents where needed the most (Yes, I went there) was exposed.
As Forrest Gump said, Thats all I have to say about that.SS
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08-28-2006, 09:51 PM #43
Re: Is It Time To Trade For major Tarde OL Player
Originally Posted by ravensfan86
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08-28-2006, 09:55 PM #44
Re: Is It Time To Trade For major Tarde OL Player
Originally Posted by B-more Ravor
Bingo, great post Ravor. I don't believe for one second that the coaching staff is not playing the best players. Billick knows that he's on the hot seat, that loyalty stuff is pure BS, the guy wants to win.
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08-28-2006, 09:55 PM #45Veteran Poster
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Re: Is It Time To Trade For major Tarde OL Player
Keep an eye on this situation: (hear that OZZIE!!)
http://www.twincities.com/mld/twinci...a/15383722.htm
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08-28-2006, 10:53 PM #46
Re: Is It Time To Trade For major Tarde OL Player
Originally Posted by Raineman
Once again BRavor- Nobody is exempt here. But someone has to take on the oneness, and Brian just seems to be the same "unscolded" self that he is. Excuse the analogy, but he could fast become the "T.O. of coaches" by giving us the same product with a different cover.
There was no secret that the O-line was the first and foremost priority that needed to be addressed this offseason. This was the consensus around most of the football genre. Yet it remains the most stagnant part of our team. Yes, it has been addressed, but with players that all need development (even in their second year) and not ones that can make an immediate impact. Draft was not an option. It was spent on D-line (which I agree was needed-as far as Ray was concerned) and our inability to acquire impacting free agents where needed the most (Yes, I went there) was exposed.
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08-28-2006, 11:02 PM #47
Re: Is It Time To Trade For major Tarde OL Player
Originally Posted by 52decleetzu
I would definitely take a look at Rosenthal (also, he played for Fassel in NY) if he gets cut loose. IMO, OT is the more pressing need. Hell, I'd even offer Minn a lower round draft pick for their trouble. Granted, it's going to be tough for any OLmen to come onto the team now and get up to speed, so he may not be able to make an immediate impact. Still, we're one OT short at this point anyway, IMO, since we only have 3 viable ones on the roster. When you carry 9 OL on the 53-man roster, you usually are looking to carry 4 OTs, and after Ogden, Terry and Pashos, we've got no one that is deserving.
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08-29-2006, 08:55 AM #48
Re: Is It Time To Trade For major Tarde OL Player
I've never held back on my dislike for Billick, here or on YBR. However, it seems convenient for you to miss my "nobody is exempt here" statement.
Hell, I was just asking the questions. Since you have all the answers, I'll stop.SS
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