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08-27-2006, 05:12 PM #13
Re: Is It Time To Trade For major Tarde OL Player
Is Orlando Brown available?
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08-27-2006, 05:28 PM #14Pro Bowl Poster
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Re: Is It Time To Trade For major Tarde OL Player
I like the group of young OL that we currently have in Adam Terry, Jason Brown and Chris Chester.
Adam Terry: He has proven to be our future at LT. He has played very well during the preseason and against some very good DEs. His pass protection is a little better than his run blocking, but Terry's shown that he can be counted on to be our LT for the next 8 years.
Jason Brown: After playing center during the first game, he has seen time moreso at LG. That could be his future, but Brown has shown that he can run and passblock. Besides, he has a nasty streak and fire that is needed on our OL. Brown is the heir apparent to Ed Mulitalo, and no longer the center of the future. Not a bad thing.
Chris Chester: Now, here is our center of the future. He played very well at center for Boller and once he adds weight and more muscle, I think he will be an outstanding center.
Those three are the future left to center of our OL, and I am encouraged with our future in the trenches. During the offseason, we should focus on signing a RT. Pashos is slated to be a UFA, and with the way he's played, this could be his last season as a Raven. At the least, Pashos may be re-signed as the backup, but we should pursue a proven RT via FA. In addition, we should also draft two more OL. This would provide more depth as well as more competition so that Terry, Chester, and Brown are still pushed to perform.It's a new season! It's a new day!
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08-27-2006, 05:34 PM #15Pro Bowl Poster
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Re: Is It Time To Trade For major Tarde OL Player
Originally Posted by RavenTD
Fact is, we pay top dollar for Ogden, worth it 3 years ago, now? Not really. Does it matter if you have a top 3 left tackle when the right is a constant turnstyle.
We are also paying truckloads to the wrong players. Flynn got a big extension, he was a guard in 2000. Rabach flat outplayed him. Doing pretty solid in Washington too. Why didn't we just sign Rabach to be the center and move Flynn to right guard? I've always wondered about that personally.
If there is any one thing that will continue to be the downfall of this team it is continually marginal O-line play, regardless of who is playing QB or RB period. Fact is if we had invested in the OL properly, then Boller might have worked out better. Not defending or criticizing.
This all goes back to the cap purge. We had to start from scratch and the OL has never recovered. All the investments were in other positions.
You can get away with mediocre WRs or TEs if one group is great. (San Diego, KC, New England)...hell or make an offense with barely anything (Philly) adequate.
Will the help come too late? I am inclined to think so.
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08-27-2006, 05:48 PM #16
Re: Is It Time To Trade For major Tarde OL Player
Originally Posted by ExiledRaven
After that, the FO had to make a decision between two players who they essentially felt were the same. Flynn was already under contract, so they kept him. They felt that Flynn, with a healthy offseason, would be back to his 2003 form. Unfortunately, hindsight says otherwise, and I know that Flynn is a common target among fans, but I really can't fault them for making the decision they made, given the circumstances at the time.
As an aside, it is interesting that, as it often seems to be the case, Flynn's best year - by far - was 2003 when he was a pending FA and Rabach's best year - heck, his only good year as a Raven - was also when he was a pending FA. It's amazing (sarcasm) how much $$$$ can be a motivating factor. :(
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Re: Is It Time To Trade For major Tarde OL Player
Originally Posted by Raven Nurse
Neither would be at the top of my list to sign, but at this point strickly looking for depth, they look like world beaters compared to a couple of those scabs we threw out there after Pachos and Terry.
Bottom line with this mess falls on Ozzie.
His phylosiphy has always been that they place the value on those that touch the ball or those that touch the QB.
Until that changes to some degree, I don't see us spending a great deal in free agency for offensive line help anytime soon.:grbac:Will Die A Ravens Fan!!
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08-27-2006, 08:24 PM #18
Re: Is It Time To Trade For major Tarde OL Player
Is It Time To Trade For major Tarde OL Player
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08-27-2006, 08:48 PM #19
Re: Is It Time To Trade For major Tarde OL Player
Is It Time To Trade For major OL Player
The time has passed. But, for the sake of argument, let's hear some suggestions as to who might be available and which players might fit.
Last edited by Mobtown; 08-27-2006 at 08:53 PM.
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08-27-2006, 09:01 PM #20
Re: Is It Time To Trade For major Tarde OL Player
We don't really even have a backup at RT, since everything I've read has said that Terry can't play there.
Oz and Co. would do well to look hard at the cuts and try to find someone servicable, and if they can't do that, as a last resort sign someone like Brooks or Brown.''You'd love to go on the first day but I'm glad for the situation I'm in,'' he said. ''Baltimore knows how to play defense.''
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08-27-2006, 09:39 PM #21
Re: Is It Time To Trade For major Tarde OL Player
Originally Posted by RavenFanatic2k6
Now, with Rimpf likely headed toward IR, I've got to think that they will make some move to bring in an OT who is worthy of making the roster, but I highly doubt that they will end up getting anyone who will be able to contribute unless forced into action (God-forbide) because of injury.Last edited by B-more Ravor; 08-27-2006 at 11:00 PM.
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08-27-2006, 10:58 PM #22On The Practice Squad
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Re: Is It Time To Trade For major Tarde OL Player
I fear we are married to this line as it is. No one of value will come available to be of help any more then the 3 future players: Terry, Brown, Chester. There is a timing issue of Chester and Brown not quite ready for prime time. Although I expect both will play this season and I hope Chester can at some point, unseat Flynn.
B-Ravor:
I see it a little differently. Flynn and Rabach are completely different players today and that is the job of the front office. They have to project during the term of the contract the type of player they have. Rabach is a better player then Flynn today. He is able to get to the second level and make affective blocks. At times it appears that flynn thinks his only assignment is to snap the ball. But when ever DT's like Pat Williams sqaures off against flynn, he is pushed back off the ball and many times into the QB, on running plays! To me both Brown and Chester are better at standing up their man as part of their assignment. Maybe Rabach isn't a world beater but he rarely is blocked into his QB on a running play!
I think Eric Decosta's comments right after the draft about "losing in the trenches" on both sides of the ball was something that needed to be addressed. That is why Ngata was drafted and he mentioned that was needed on the offensive side as well.
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08-27-2006, 11:10 PM #23
Re: Is It Time To Trade For major Tarde OL Player
Originally Posted by ravensfan86
So, once he did play in 2004 and play as he did, it really didn't matter because the Ravens decision was already made - the money had been investing in Flynn.
Now, if you want to say they should have seen it coming, well, I just can't see how they could have based on how underwhelming Rabach's play was during his first 3 years here. That, IMO, would be hindsight talking. Had he then been Flynn's equal (or close enough), I have no doubt the team probably would have let Flynn go and stuck with Rabach since he was younger, and at least at that point, cheaper. But, the simple fact of the matter was that Rabach, as a 3rd round pick, was basically a bust during those 1st 3 years.
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08-28-2006, 05:28 AM #24
Re: Is It Time To Trade For major Tarde OL Player
I do believe we Raven fans should have this motto.
Friend asks,"Looks like you have a gray hair."
Reply,"It's the O'line stupid.":insane:
Its not like we are not prepared for what a bad O'line looks like.Its watching
the effects of what a bad O'line brings for another season .Put the smile back on your face.This is a 60 minute ball game.
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