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    Who likes WR Roy Williams?



    I've read that he could be traded and after the turd they laid against the Bears this past week, he may want to come to a team like the Ravens. Who/what would we be willing to give up to get him and how much do you think he's worth or do you think he'd be too much?

    He would be a helluva a target for Flack and open up a vertical passing game!!

    http://blog.mlive.com/lionsinsider/2..._return_t.html

    http://blogs.nfl.com/2008/10/05/lion...l-wr-williams/




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    Re: Who likes WR Roy Williams?

    Not for what the Lions are asking for. They need to back down from that 2 1st round pick crap first.




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    Re: Who likes WR Roy Williams?

    I would give them a 1st round pick. If Mason is our #2 WR, our offense will be a lot harder to stop, Heap, Clayton and the other guys will be wide open.

    Roy Williams is a player. I have always liked him, and there is not a WR we could draft in the first round that would be a better bet.

    Demetrius Williams and Mark Clayton are solid, but this guy is spectacular.




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    Re: Who likes WR Roy Williams?

    Shouldnt this thread be titled "Who Could Afford Roy Williams?"
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    Re: Who likes WR Roy Williams?

    I haven't seen him play. Not sure why. Maybe because he's on the Lions? Hah.

    If he's truly pro bowl caliber and young, he's worth a 1st round pick and more. It's the "and more" part that's always hard to figure out and negotiate.




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    Re: Who likes WR Roy Williams?

    I like Roy Williams and would love to have him here. He is a really talented kid that has been suffering with a bad franchise and bad QB play...similar to Chris Chambers in Miami last year.

    No way in hell I'd trade more than a 2nd rounder for him though.

    The going rate for good WR's is a second round pick...TO, Moss, Chambers...all for a second or even less.




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    Re: Who likes WR Roy Williams?

    He's a #1 for sure, but at what cost? Next year, definitely because Flack will be capable of fully utilizing him by then...

    UNLEASH THE BEASTS!!!!




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    Re: Who likes WR Roy Williams?

    Moss was a steal, from a senile fool. Chambers was well worth the 2nd rounder and Williams is better than he is.

    I think the Sea Hawks gave up a 1st rounder for Deion Branch. The Bungles turned down a firstround pick for Ocho Stinko.

    Drafting a WR in the first round is about a 50/ 50 gamble, so I would gladly give this guy the money instead and fill a big need with proven young talent. A first rounder alone is not going to do it. We may have to throw in more, but I would only give up a little more than that.




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    Re: Who likes WR Roy Williams?

    This...

    YEAR TEAM G REC YDS AVG LNG TD FD FUM LOST
    2004 DET 14 54 817 15.1 46 8 34 1 1
    2005 DET 13 45 687 15.3 51 8 31 0 0
    2006 DET 16 82 1310 16.0 60 7 66 2 2
    2007 DET 12 64 838 13.1 91 5 34 2 1
    2008 DET 4 15 209 13.9 25 1 13 0 0

    Is not worth a number one.

    He has had bad QB play, but they are still modest average numbers...just like Chris Chambers.


    Offer a 2, draft a CB/DT/DE with our first pick next year.




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    Re: Who likes WR Roy Williams?

    I admit I'm at a disadvantage from not seeing this kid play.

    But, I can offer this point of view: How many 1st round picks at WR reach the Pro Bowl in the NFL? How many in the top half?

    How many make the PB that are taken from the middle of the first round down? That's where the Ravens will probably pick from.

    I don't know the answer but would guess maybe 35% drafted in the top half reach the pro bowl and 25% of those drafted in the lower half. If that.

    I would much rather spend a 1st round pick on a known quantity-a pro bowl caliber reciever already in the NFL- than use it on the crap shoot that is the NFL draft.

    Of course if they were to offer him to us for a second rounder I'd take it. That have to be crazy, but I'd take it.




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    Re: Who likes WR Roy Williams?

    I would rather have Anquan Boldin actually. He wants out of Arizona after they didn't negoitiate a new contract with him. I don't know how much longer he is under contract there, but I would certainly trade picks or players for him.

    I am done with drafting receivers in the first or second round to be a go to guy here. We haven't had a lot of success and would much rather get a PROVEN veteran, instead of a rookie and wait for him to develop (if that even happens)




  12. Re: Who likes WR Roy Williams?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremiah W View Post
    Demetrius Williams and Mark Clayton are solid, but this guy is spectacular.
    Solid at what?

    If either one of those two cats were "solid" this thread probably isn't even started on here.

    I doubt either one of those two could do what Mason does right now even if we had a true #1 and Mason was gone.

    Neither IMO will amount to much more then they are now which is perhaps a #3 at best with having a true #1 on board.

    No way do we cough up a #1 in the draft.
    Will Die A Ravens Fan!!




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    Re: Who likes WR Roy Williams?

    Boldin is signed through 2010 despite some people thinking he's a FA after this season.

    Williams is signed through this season with 2009 being a voidable year. Basically, he's gonna be a free agent.

    Why would anyone want to cough up a 1st rounder for a guy in the middle of the 2008 season when he will be on the market 5 months later.

    PP




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    Re: Who likes WR Roy Williams?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Fanatic View Post
    Solid at what?

    If either one of those two cats were "solid" this thread probably isn't even started on here.

    I doubt either one of those two could do what Mason does right now even if we had a true #1 and Mason was gone.

    Neither IMO will amount to much more then they are now which is perhaps a #3 at best with having a true #1 on board.

    No way do we cough up a #1 in the draft.
    I think Clayton and Williams are good Wrs. If they played for the Saints they would have big numbers. I see decent speed, hands quickness and route running in both guys. Williams has decent size but both are pretty small complimentary type WRs. The Ravens need a WR who can draw double coverage and beat it. I think if we had someone who did that, Clayton, Mason, D Williams and Heap would get 1 on 1 matchups they would beat more often.

    Boldin is under contract for 3 more years and is going to be much harder to get. i am also not sure he is better than Roy Williams, he just lines up accross from Fitzgerald who I think is the best Wr in the NFL.

    You really need a bunch of good WRs with different skills and size. Someone has to go accross the middle and be a big target for the Qb and the safties.




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    Re: Who likes WR Roy Williams?

    I think Clayton has been a HUGE disapointment.

    He is a small possession WR who struggles to get separation and contrary to his rep in college, sucks at YAC.

    D-Will has potential to have a Keenan McCardell type career if he can stay healthy.

    Niether have lived up to expectations and that is why we are still complaining about lack of playmakers out there.




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