Unbelievable

**RvnFanInIndy** · 10-05-2008, 06:04 PM

OK...I'm going to stand out on an island now, bring your worst. I was just reading the game thread and you freaking people are UNBELIEVABLE!!!!! We start the season 2-0 against really, REALLY bad teams, and everyone is suddenly thinking 10-6...12-4....playoffs are a lock, etc. Now, after 2 losses, y'all are ready to call Flacco a bust. WTF!!!

Phrases like...'Don't know if we have a consistent answer at QB yet'.....'He absolutely stinks when rolling out to his right...I mean his 3 INT's (including the one that was overturned) were Neil O'Donnell esque.' Again I ask...WTF??

Lest we forget...rookie QB, that played at a D1-A school...rookie head coach... the same "lousy receivers" most everyone was bitching and moaning about in the preseason...not to mention the "aging defense, with it's over-rated, over-the-hill, leader" Does anyone else remember that stuff being said on these very boards about a month ago?? Am I pissed we have lost 2 VERY winnable games...damn right I am. Honestly, does it surprise me that we are 2-2...not in the least. Hell, if the Clowns had shown 1/10th what they had last season, we'd be looking at 1-3.

I'm beginning to think that some Xanax or Lorazepam may be in order for some of you. Just in case anyone forgot...Squeelers are 3-1 and the Titans are 5-0...it's not like we just got rolled by the Chiefs for f*cks sake!! Think back on what you thought our overall record for the season would be during preseason....I seem to remember seeing lots of 8-8's....7-9's....a few were predicting above .500 but most were just praying for anything above last years disaster. Personally I think there was WAAYYYY too much KOOL-AID being drunk after week 2. It's a long season, and Joe is gonna have ups and downs, Harbs is gonna call good games and bad, the D is gonna look bad sometimes, great others.

Again, these are all my opinions, and we know how that goes. Should we expect better out of the team than they showed today?? Perhaps, but let's not forget where we came from, and how bad it really was last year. Now, I'm ready to duck and dodge the slings and arrows you see fit to throw at me.

**Lee Van Cleef** · 10-05-2008, 06:08 PM

Up to a point I agree. I was saying after the first two wins that people should put it in perspective and remember that Flacco is a rookie who is going to have bumps in the road ahead and that whilst we are better than most thought, we still aren't playoff ready.

**RvnFanInIndy** · 10-05-2008, 06:38 PM

Originally Posted by Lee Van Cleef

Up to a point I agree. I was saying after the first two wins that people should put it in perspective and remember that Flacco is a rookie who is going to have bumps in the road ahead and that whilst we are better than most thought, we still aren't playoff ready.

Exactamundo!!!

Put way better than what I said. Lot shorter too. :D

**Rayvens52** · 10-05-2008, 07:53 PM

[QUOTE=Lee Van Cleef;101088]Up to a point I agree. I was saying after the first two wins that people should put it in perspective and remember that Flacco is a rookie who is going to have bumps in the road ahead and that whilst we are better than most thought, we still aren't playoff ready.[/QUOTE]

How can you say that. You have no clue if we are ready. This is a team that could easly be 4-0 right now. We are playing beyond expectations right now, and the D is looking like the team of 2006. Yes Flacco will have bumps, but by no means would we be better with Boller PERIOD! We have a young O-Line that was beating up a great Tenn front 4 all day. This is a very good football team that just lost 2 games hey had won, and this is a team that if Pitt starts to fail due to injuries we could take this division.

**ravenjoe** · 10-06-2008, 10:59 AM

[QUOTE=Rayvens52;101116]

Originally Posted by Lee Van Cleef

This is a very good football team that just lost 2 games hey had won, and this is a team that if Pitt starts to fail due to injuries we could take this division.

I still believe the Ravens have a good enough team that can take the division, regardless of whether Pittsburgh fails or not. However, we are going to have to learn to close teams out, and BEAT Pittsburgh when they come here.

**Lee Van Cleef** · 10-06-2008, 11:33 AM

Originally Posted by Rayvens52

How can you say that. You have no clue if we are ready. This is a team that could easly be 4-0 right now. We are playing beyond expectations right now, and the D is looking like the team of 2006.

The D is looking good, but it couldn't stop a Kerry Collins drive yesterday for the game. 2006 they probably would have.

Yes Flacco will have bumps, but by no means would we be better with Boller PERIOD!

Nowhere did I say that we would, in fact I very much disagreed with someone who said we would be better off with Boller. So why you're saying this to me I don't understand.

We have a young O-Line that was beating up a great Tenn front 4 all day. This is a very good football team that just lost 2 games hey had won, and this is a team that if Pitt starts to fail due to injuries we could take this division.

And what about the injuries we're starting to take on? Remember we're on the early end of a 15 game streak here, we're starting to mount up injuries in the secondary and this is a team that has a fair amount of years spread across it's definitive feature, the D.

And surely the fact that against 2 supposed AFC contenders we failed to close the game out shows that we are not at a point yet where we figure to make a run into the playoffs? We lost to a flawed Pitt team missing key starters and we lost to an overrated Titans team that we spent a good deal of the time man-handling. In both instances we failed to close out the game and accrued stupid penalties. If that inspires you with confidence, go crazy. I'm going to hold back on the hype and look at this with a degree of pragmatism.

**Rayvens52** · 10-06-2008, 11:52 AM

Originally Posted by Lee Van Cleef

The D is looking good, but it couldn't stop a Kerry Collins drive yesterday for the game. 2006 they probably would have.

Nowhere did I say that we would, in fact I very much disagreed with someone who said we would be better off with Boller. So why you're saying this to me I don't understand.

And what about the injuries we're starting to take on? Remember we're on the early end of a 15 game streak here, we're starting to mount up injuries in the secondary and this is a team that has a fair amount of years spread across it's definitive feature, the D.

And surely the fact that against 2 supposed AFC contenders we failed to close the game out shows that we are not at a point yet where we figure to make a run into the playoffs? We lost to a flawed Pitt team missing key starters and we lost to an overrated Titans team that we spent a good deal of the time man-handling. In both instances we failed to close out the game and accrued stupid penalties. If that inspires you with confidence, go crazy. I'm going to hold back on the hype and look at this with a degree of pragmatism.

The boller comment was not to you sorry I was responding to the other poster as well.

**POPSinPA** · 10-05-2008, 06:17 PM

This team would be 4-0 with a real QB. That's not to say Flacco sux, he is just what he is, a green rookie.
Sad, but get used to it.
I know everyone is going to blame the D, but quite frankly they are the only thing that kept us in the game that long.
A real Veteran QB and we are easily 4-0. Even with Boller I believe we would be 4-0. But alas these are the cards we were dealt, and a playoff caliber defense is going to go wasted on a rookie QB that should be watching.
Oh well, 2-2 ain't all that bad and the kid does show promise.

**phatboy** · 10-05-2008, 06:30 PM

You have got to be kidding me. BOLLER he could not have made half of the throws Flacco has and he definitely would have more turnovers.

**Tspot-D-Ravenator** · 10-05-2008, 08:47 PM

Originally Posted by POPSinPA

This team would be 4-0 with a real QB. That's not to say Flacco sux, he is just what he is, a green rookie.
Sad, but get used to it.
I know everyone is going to blame the D, but quite frankly they are the only thing that kept us in the game that long.
A real Veteran QB and we are easily 4-0. Even with Boller I believe we would be 4-0. But alas these are the cards we were dealt, and a playoff caliber defense is going to go wasted on a rookie QB that should be watching.
Oh well, 2-2 ain't all that bad and the kid does show promise.

**RavensFanIAm** · 10-06-2008, 11:10 AM

Originally Posted by POPSinPA

This team would be 4-0 with a real QB. That's not to say Flacco sux, he is just what he is, a green rookie.
Sad, but get used to it.
I know everyone is going to blame the D, but quite frankly they are the only thing that kept us in the game that long.
A real Veteran QB and we are easily 4-0. Even with Boller I believe we would be 4-0. But alas these are the cards we were dealt, and a playoff caliber defense is going to go wasted on a rookie QB that should be watching.
Oh well, 2-2 ain't all that bad and the kid does show promise.

Sorry, but this is bull. The D didn't finish the job in both losses, even though Flacco didn't help much in either loss. The D played their part as well. Sorry, that won't fly..........