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    The Suggs penalty



    So there was a false start on the Titans and a personal foul on us. I swear that last week there was a very similar situation...something like illegal motion or substitution or something like that, with a personal foul on the play by the defense (don't know that it was our game). In that game, the ref called the penalties off-setting.

    I remember this really specifically because I was surprised that they called it like that. Does anyone else remember this?

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    Re: The Suggs penalty

    Maybe that only applies when it's a real penalty, not some figment of the referee's imagination.




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    Re: The Suggs penalty

    This was a killer ghost call for malice in the heart. He did not even appear to hit the helmet. Game over if we do not get that call.




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    Re: The Suggs penalty

    Surely a false start is pre-snap anyway and thus the play should've been whistled dead and "no play occurred". Seems off to me.




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    Re: The Suggs penalty

    That was a very weird call. This doesn't seem right to me at all




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    Re: The Suggs penalty

    Anyone know what the e-mail address is for the Official Review Segment on NFL Total Access on Wednesday's? It won't change anything but I'd at least be interested to know whether it was a blown call not to enforce the false start and negate the play.




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    Re: The Suggs penalty

    I'm sure Pereira will explain it away.




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    Re: The Suggs penalty

    Well the NFL's rule segment on their website is useless. I've got the NCAA's rulebook on my laptop on a .pdf and that backs up my understanding that the pre-snap false start penalty should've whistled the play dead and made Suggs' penalty irrelevant. Now if only I could find a .pdf of the NFL's rulebook and see if there's any difference there, can't imagine that there should be but always good to be sure.

    Seems to me that the ref ignored and enforced the wrong penalties.




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    Re: The Suggs penalty

    QB's are like saints now, you can't touch them!!!....and as others have said, a false start would be a dead play so how can Suggs hit a QB?




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    Re: The Suggs penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by UKRavenStockers View Post
    Well the NFL's rule segment on their website is useless. I've got the NCAA's rulebook on my laptop on a .pdf and that backs up my understanding that the pre-snap false start penalty should've whistled the play dead and made Suggs' penalty irrelevant. Now if only I could find a .pdf of the NFL's rulebook and see if there's any difference there, can't imagine that there should be but always good to be sure.

    Seems to me that the ref ignored and enforced the wrong penalties.
    It is a crappy page at nfl.com! Why wouldn't they have a .pdf of the rules?




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    Re: The Suggs penalty

    Champagne's on ice in the refs' locker room.

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    Re: The Suggs penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by 4G63 View Post
    It is a crappy page at nfl.com! Why wouldn't they have a .pdf of the rules?
    Yep, that's what I found, went there first and realised it was useless so went to my NCAA pdf. Can't imagine there would be a difference, but we all know that the rules protecting the QB are very different between the NCAA and the NFL so it's not beyond the realms of the possible that a roughing the passer penalty overrides a false start.

    Though continuing this officiating bitch (yes I'm bored, and hungry, why didn't I eat during the game? Why am I rambling?) Haynesworth should've been called for a personal foul when he threw Flacco to ground on his encroachment.




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    That was absolute bullshit. The penalty should never have been called because the play never should have been run, and for the SIMPLE FACT THAT HE DIDN'T EVEN TOUCH HIS HELMET. FUCK THE REF'S! I am so tired of them fucking games up, they should have there game checks taken away when they ruin the game!
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    Re: The Suggs penalty

    I know I am bitter right now....but I swear that one day there is going to be a drunk/pissed off fan that is really going to beat the hell out of a ref. The NFL has to crack down on these officials. I like Ed H. but he missed a call three weeks ago. Then this? And I love how the Associated Press fails to mention the false start...though they do say that the Personal Foul was bogus.

    I am not saying the NFL is out to get us...but I feel the refs are so worried about making the wrong call now a days that they make every F-ing call possible.

    The thing is...at least Ed H. got the call right...though he messed it up. By rule, that was the right call after the Instant Replay. This may have been a blown call but you better believe the NFL will not do anything about it.




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    Re: The Suggs penalty

    David says:
    I know why Miami beat SD now; they direct snapped to Ronnie Brown for another TD run.
    Tobias says:
    jesus, is no one going to catch on to that play?
    David says:
    I'd like to see them try it against the Ravens, taken down the backfield for a loss of 5, then a phantom roughing the passer penalty on Terrell Suggs getting Miami a first down and goal.
    Tobias says:
    hah
    What I said.




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