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  1. #16

    Re: Get Rid of, or Trade Ray Lewis



    Letting Ray go would be one of the dumbest moves possible.

    When he retires I completely expect him to become a part of the front office or better the coaching staff, unless he doesn't want to.

    Given his ability to motivate, playing or not, i can't see him being anything other than a coach.

    maybe i'm a dreamer.




  2. #17

    Re: Get Rid of, or Trade Ray Lewis

    I heard this all off season long from quite a few fans on here and on the radio People forget how Ray Lewis can motivate and inspire average players like Ed Hartwell and others...They also tend to forget that Ray Lewis, by himself, can change the momentum of a game with one play...
    Been hearing that crap for years from people who would rather have a 4th round pick in return. Year after year ray produces at a high level, F Y'all who dont believe in Ray

    I can't even imagine Ray Lewis in another uniform...
    So true, I cant imagine him ever playing for someone else and god forbid if he did get traded or simply left, i really wouldnt take that very well. I might punch an unsuspecting kid in the back of the head
    WOW! I feel so fortunate that the Ravens did what they had to do to make this happen. Thank you. My Heart is with the Raven....My Heart is with Baltimore and its great fans. What can I say. Here We Go!!! --Ray Lewis
    No, Thank you Ray...
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    Re: Get Rid of, or Trade Ray Lewis

    Everyone who knows me knows full well when Ray retires (or god forbid goes somewhere else) I'm taking bereavement leave from work...
    Keeping the purple flowing way out on the West Coast!




  4. #19

    Re: Get Rid of, or Trade Ray Lewis

    I don't recall anyone saying Ray couldn't play at a high level anymore. Most of the arguments I recall had to do with his selfishness, putting himself before the team and acting like a complete brat ('05) the last time he wanted an extension. I am glad he decided to act like an adult this time around, at least on the surface.




  5. #20

    Re: Get Rid of, or Trade Ray Lewis

    Quote Originally Posted by Rayvens52 View Post
    Yup I would love to see one of those people come on now and still try and make that argument.
    I'll play...

    He's playing great this year in a contract year. He's also been around for 12 years now...he's certainly not done, but he doesn't have 5 more years left, either. He's going to want a ton of money. Also, regardless of his public image, he really is an asshole. Yeah, he does charity work...all players do, they have agents/managers who find the work for them and tell them where to go.

    Ray's playing great this year...he's what..34? Will he be worth being the highest paid defensive player in the NFL at age 35? I'm not so sure that that is the case...i'd rather let him sign elsewhere and make a play for Boldin with the freed up money.




  6. #21

    Re: Get Rid of, or Trade Ray Lewis

    Quote Originally Posted by Tspot-D-Ravenator View Post
    Get rid of, or trade Ray Lewis while we can still get something for him..He's old and he's slow and he's not the player he used to be.. Let's put this to rest!!

    I heard this all off season long from quite a few fans on here and on the radio People forget how Ray Lewis can motivate and inspire average players like Ed Hartwell and others...They also tend to forget that Ray Lewis, by himself, can change the momentum of a game with one play...

    Fact: Ray Lewis is a game changer RAY LEWIS BIG HIT <click
    sorry...one more point...I wouldn't say Ray "motivated a mediocre player" in Ed Hartwell...Hartwell was a GOOD player who had his best year when Ray was injured and he REPLACED Ray in the lineup, you know, when Ray wasn't even showing up to games on the sideline...if anything Mike Nolan inspired him...Hartwell resented Ray Lewis. Anyway, Hartwell's career, unfortunately for him, was hindered badly by some pretty horrid injuries.




  7. #22

    Re: Get Rid of, or Trade Ray Lewis

    Hey crazyraven, I'm in for punching kids out for Ray Lewis, I just think it'd be a good way to meet Ray (he wouldn't be happy with us). We'll even do it in Ray Lewis style. You (Ray/D) hold his ears back, and I (our 96-07 O) take as many shots as i can in an hour and hope in get him once maybe twice.

    But now with Cam Cameron When Ray pins ears back, we run the ball right into the end zone. Ray has got to be a happy man. Year after year Ray leads our D to being the best and now with us being about to get in on the ground with our 3 backer system its great!


    Nothing but smiles from me
    What you talkin' about Willis?




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    Re: Get Rid of, or Trade Ray Lewis

    This discussion is far from over... we will have it for a while yet... the reason is age. Happens to every player, just noticed a lot more when they are/were one of the all time greats.

    I think we can agree that the SB MVP Ray is gone. His field range has been shrinking year to year, but he is still a major impact with the range he has left, and experience has compensated a little for speed.

    The heart of the matter seems to be, how much of the cap is he worth, and for how long? Questions that can't really be answered without hindsight.

    Can we/do we want to see him elsewhere? Never. Those of us who have been around, remember Charger Unitas, Ram Namath, Cheif Montana, something we don't want to see with Ray, but a historical reality with others.

    If we resolve TSizzle, is there a possibility of franchising Ray? That would give him a big payday without future cap hit. While it may p*ss him off, it still is a flattering compliment on current (this year only) value.
    I don't think we will really know how things are going to resolve until the $$$ that Ray wants and the $$$ Ray will settle for are out in the open.
    I love Ray, but am a Raven fan ahead of a Ray fan, it is all about the whole team, and so the discussion continues....




  9. #24

    Re: Get Rid of, or Trade Ray Lewis

    It's funny how some people pretend they know what type of person Ray Lewis "really" is...

    UNLEASH THE BEASTS!!!!




  10. #25

    Re: Get Rid of, or Trade Ray Lewis

    Ray is a fine upstanding citizen, contributor to the community and a great role model for kids, very much like Cal Ripken. He is certainly not a selfish, egomaniac, at times a malcontent, as some suggest.





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    Re: Get Rid of, or Trade Ray Lewis

    Quote Originally Posted by RavensNTerps View Post
    He's playing great this year in a contract year. He's also been around for 12 years now...he's certainly not done, but he doesn't have 5 more years left, either.
    Your opinion only, not fact. The true facts are that he is probably in the best shape of any Raven. Many LBs have played in the upper 30s who were not nearly in as good shape as Ray is and has been. Who says he doesn't have 5 more years? Obviously there would be some sort of downfall in his abilities over 5 years but even with that he could probably still be better than half the LBs in the league.

    Quote Originally Posted by RavensNTerps View Post
    He's going to want a ton of money. Also, regardless of his public image, he really is an asshole. Yeah, he does charity work...all players do, they have agents/managers who find the work for them and tell them where to go.
    You know Ray personally? Can you introduce me to him?

    Quote Originally Posted by RavensNTerps View Post
    Ray's playing great this year...he's what..34? Will he be worth being the highest paid defensive player in the NFL at age 35? I'm not so sure that that is the case...i'd rather let him sign elsewhere and make a play for Boldin with the freed up money.
    He is 33, born May 1975. In sports you generally get paid for what you have done, not what you are going to do. What he has done is made the Ravens what they are today. This team is a reflection of him. He also played from 1998-2003 at a level that 2-3 LBs have EVER played. There is absolutely no doubt that he is one of the top 5 LBs of all time.




  12. #27

    Re: Get Rid of, or Trade Ray Lewis

    Quote Originally Posted by WxKevin View Post
    Your opinion only, not fact. The true facts are that he is probably in the best shape of any Raven. Many LBs have played in the upper 30s who were not nearly in as good shape as Ray is and has been. Who says he doesn't have 5 more years? Obviously there would be some sort of downfall in his abilities over 5 years but even with that he could probably still be better than half the LBs in the league.



    You know Ray personally? Can you introduce me to him?



    He is 33, born May 1975. In sports you generally get paid for what you have done, not what you are going to do. What he has done is made the Ravens what they are today. This team is a reflection of him. He also played from 1998-2003 at a level that 2-3 LBs have EVER played. There is absolutely no doubt that he is one of the top 5 LBs of all time.
    Of course it is opinion. I don't "know" Ray, but I've been involved w/ the team internally and externally before and I've seen how he operates. He's a master at knowing when a camera is on him.

    In sports you get paid for what you've done, but that's not always smart for the team dishing out the money...no doubt he's playing at a high level now, but is it worth the risk? We've had players step up admirably in his abscense before (hartwell, scott)...the defense may not be #1 without him, but I have no doubts it'd be top 10-12, and if we used the money we saved on him on the offense we might just be something. Yeah, it's my opinion.




  13. #28

    Re: Get Rid of, or Trade Ray Lewis

    Quote Originally Posted by SHORTTRACK View Post
    Ray is a fine upstanding citizen, contributor to the community and a great role model for kids, very much like Cal Ripken. He is certainly not a selfish, egomaniac, at times a malcontent, as some suggest.

    Thank God I don't live anywhere near you.

    You'd probably judge me by my clothing, jewelry, or even more ridiculously, something you've read in a Mike Preston column...




  14. #29

    Re: Get Rid of, or Trade Ray Lewis

    Funny stuff. 52 tells people that they should not make assumptions about people they do not know, then makes assumptions about people he doesn't know.




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    Re: Get Rid of, or Trade Ray Lewis

    Told you the haters would come out ....

    And they never let anything like facts get in the way of their personal attacks on Ray.
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