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    Re: My only concern



    Quote Originally Posted by octscotts View Post
    I wanted to see Flacco throw a TD too. Especially at the end of the 4th quarter when we had ran basically all the time off the clock and we were in the red zone. Why not let him throw one on the 4th down? We were going for it anyway. Even if by chance they picked it and ran it back, they'd still be down by 2 scores with about 2 mins. to go. But, I know they did the smart thing. Run it down their throats and take as much time off the clock. That said, I was happy with his performance. He had some nice 11-15 yrd passes for 1st downs and how about that spin move to convert the 4th down. He's poised and makes smart decisions. That's what we need. I'm not putting the cart before the horse, but hell, we won a SB with Trent Dilfer. Who knows what this team is capable of. I agree, however, that Monday will be a true test. So far, he's only had to play in the nice and friendly confines of Raven Stadium. I'm excited to see what he does in Pittsburgh.
    We didn't go for the TD there b/c we still have to go play the Browns in their house, and with the game in hand why piss them off by running up the score.

    There were two plays yesterday that really have me excited about Flacco.

    The one play were he rolled to his left, then no one was open over there and he threw to a wide open Todd heap on the other side of the field. The patience it took to find heap who was his 4th option on the play was great.

    The other play was on a third down he couldn't find anyone open, moved up in the pocket like he was going to take off in the middle, but he kept his head up and threw over the middle for a first down. Again Poise, and Patience.

    Two small plays that speak volumes to me. Previous QB's here would have panicked when their first couple of recievers hadn't been open and either ran, taken the sack, or tried to force it into a covered receiver...
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    Re: My only concern

    Yeah, I gotta say his patience and ability to look downfield and make his checkdowns is what I like best so far...

    Next Monday will be the4 first real tough test... My gut says he will be fine... I hope my gut is right.
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    Very true. Previous QBs (whom shall remain nameless) would surely have thrown that ball away after the 1st receiver was covered, much less checking off to his 2nd, 3rd or 4th.

    And I hear what you say about running up the score. I'm not trying to be the Patriots. It would just be nice to see what his arm has in the red zone.
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    Re: My only concern

    Quote Originally Posted by octscotts View Post
    Very true. Previous QBs (whom shall remain nameless) would surely have thrown that ball away after the 1st receiver was covered, much less checking off to his 2nd, 3rd or 4th.

    And I hear what you say about running up the score. I'm not trying to be the Patriots. It would just be nice to see what his arm has in the red zone.
    It would be nice, I agree. But Patience Grasshopper there will be a time this season where we have to throw in the red zone.
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    Re: My only concern

    Quote Originally Posted by pyite32 View Post
    We didn't go for the TD there b/c we still have to go play the Browns in their house, and with the game in hand why piss them off by running up the score.
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    I thought is spoke well of the Ravens staff that they didn't go for a cheap td or fg at that point. and kudos for Coach Crennell for not playing the time out game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RavenDavey View Post
    I have no concern because the Offense is moving the ball and controlling the clock, and the Defense is Dominating. We are still scoring defensively as well. If we maintain our massive time of possession, the D will be well rested to put the smackdown on the opposing teams.

    Joe will throw for TD's here soon, and we may see an offensive explosion back to the "Testaverde to Jackson" days....AND STILL HAVE OUR D!!!
    I agree... and keep posting, your'e avatar cannot be seen too often! Who cares how we get'em... Look at the score... 28 points..... that means ALL TD's!!!!! not 15 points.... all FG's!




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    Re: My only concern

    I agree with whoever mentioned the Big Ben Theory, Cam is slowly bringing him in. I expect the playbook to open up more as the season goes and he really gets a rhythm. I want him to throw a TD, but his time will come. I don't remember seeing a QB this cool behind our O Line since Vinny did or McNair in '06.

    He's a very smart guy, his time will come. I'm hoping it's next week against Shitsburgh, though
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    Quote Originally Posted by Galen Sevinne View Post
    I think you need to keep it in perspective that the guy shouldn't even be starting. Boller gets hurt and Smith gets the infection. I don't think anyone thought he was ready to start but there was really no choice. The fact that we have gotten two wins is a bonus.

    The real test will be Monday night to see if he is really a capable NFL starting QB for 2008. I think everyone needs to remember that he is really the third string guy right now and not lose perspective and start thinking he is the "chosen one".
    I agree. But we have to find a way to minimize the bone-headed mistakes he's gonna make as a rook with no clipboard time. We've gotten off to the best start we could hope for and if we're gonna capitalize on that momentum, we have to make sure the kid isn't overloaded with too much responsibility.

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    Re: My only concern

    By no way am I saying Joe is peyton, but look how bad that O is playing right now due to Peyton's injury and lack of practice time with his WR's, same can go for Joe, he didn't really get a ton of time with the starters and now is, IMO he will continue to get better, and the bottom line is we are winning!
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    I'm not yet concerned about Joe Flacco just yet. The fact that he hasn't thrown a touchdown yet is because he hasn't HAD to. When you're at the 5 yard line and you have LeRon McClain, Ray Rice, and Willis McGahee (who I am still not 100% sold on yet, although he made me happy yesterday), then why throw the ball? Pound the defense into the dirt and make them pay.

    Flacco made key throws when he had to. That roll-out across-the-field throw to Heap (the one catch Heap DID make) was beautiful. And when we needed yards, he got them.

    As for the mistakes, I can only put the Heap INT on him. Not a great read and the defender was there the whole time. But the flea flicker I can't put on him. We still have a problem with receivers not being able to get seperation. And while Mason had to fight for the ball, it was still there for Mason to fight for. I'm not worried about that play at all.

    Those likening this to Big Ben's 2004 season are dead on. Rothlesberger HARDLY threw the ball that year, but the throws he did make were important. Flacco is quickly becoming the same way.

    My concerns right now are mostly the offensive line holding up like they have, and our cornerbacks staying healthy. But hell, if they don't have to take the field the entire 4th quarter of a game, I'm not that worried!

    Will we beat the Steelers in Pittsburgh Monday night? I'm not ready to call that a win just yet. But I think it will be competitive.




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    Re: My only concern

    Speaking of McGahee, what was going on with his eye?

    They didnt have sound at the bar I was at. Looked like it was bleeding.
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    Re: My only concern

    Cut on his eye lid was what I remember hearing the CBS crew say. But was it just me or did it look like his left eye was swollen and closed up as well?




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    Quote Originally Posted by Galen Sevinne View Post
    I think you need to keep it in perspective that the guy shouldn't even be starting. Boller gets hurt and Smith gets the infection. I don't think anyone thought he was ready to start but there was really no choice. The fact that we have gotten two wins is a bonus.

    The real test will be Monday night to see if he is really a capable NFL starting QB for 2008. I think everyone needs to remember that he is really the third string guy right now and not lose perspective and start thinking he is the "chosen one".
    Get over it already, he is the future of this franchise for better or worse and no QB on the roster was ready to start. What do we do, run without one since none of them were 'ready'?

    Troy Smith is not going to magically become the starter no matter what happens barring catastrophic injury.

    You don't draft a QB in the first round if your future at the position is the guy you got in round 5 last year.

    Boller? i think the whole state would laugh at that.

    I also don't get the stats thing.

    Let's keep 2 things in mind:

    1) Fantasy football is stupid and screws with how you watch the game.

    2) QB rating is also known as the "Montana is god stat" because they invented it only to justify all the gushing over the guy at a time when Marino and Elway were clearly better at their positions but not on as good a teams.

    My one real concern is the coaching staff, not Flacco, but so far they have done a great job. They have to put him in a position to make plays he can make on plays he and the team know. It's a new offense for everyone.

    Unlike Boller, Flacco has already proved the game is not "too fast" for him, he has not once had the 'deer in headlights' look we've gotten so used to seeing from Boller.

    I have 3 or 4 friends who make nonsense statements like those above because they feel like Troy Smith should be the starter, i'm tired of them honestly.

    So if i seem to be branding you with that brush i'm sorry, I don't mean to, and you didn't say that.




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    Re: My only concern

    He had a TD to Heap(dropped) the first game and to Mason during the Browns game.....remember the defensive holding down the sideline?...that was a TD!


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    Quote Originally Posted by StingerNLG View Post
    But the flea flicker I can't put on him. We still have a problem with receivers not being able to get seperation. And while Mason had to fight for the ball, it was still there for Mason to fight for. I'm not worried about that play at all.
    That play amounted to nothing more then a long punt, but still counts against the QB stats.

    The ball was actually perfectly thrown to the spot it needed to be at which was a positive sign to me.
    The problem with that play was the amount of time it took for the ball to get back to Flacco and the location it was put at for Flacco to catch it.
    Basically IMO the biggest breakdown of that play was more on McGahee then Flacco.
    I think Mason actually had the defenders beat but the delay of the play allowed them to recover.
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