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    Thats some good stuff guys! Keep it up!




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    Quote Originally Posted by Chef Dawg View Post
    Thats some good stuff guys! Keep it up!
    by the way dummy it is a total of 5 dropped passes for the sorry ass edwards.


    but anyway i dont care who you root for or where you live take your sorry ass and go worry about the browns this is for BALTIMORE unless you are a ravens fan no need for you to stick around.after all the shit you been writing take a hike.




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    I can see the sense of optimism on the Browns side. Just as on our side. It's still way too early to think a few weeks of play will determine how your team will sit at the end of the season.

    I think Anderson isn't a bad QB but if the line continues to have issues as it did with another blitzing D like Pitt. He won't have much time to throw. I do agree that Winslow should be our biggest concern on offense. Edwards is better than both Bengal WR's because is more physical. The Jamal Lewis you are seeing now is the one that we saw here his last two, injured and taking three tippy toe steps and falling forward. They would be better served getting Wright or Harrison into the mix.

    The defense didn't do a horrible job against PITT, but they did allow 3.8 yards per carry. Stopping the run was imperative in those conditions and they couldn't do it. Otherwise statisically they matched the Steelers. The difference was clutch plays.

    Baltimore will be able to run the ball and Cameron will come up with solid protections to allow Flacco to throw. If Rice and Heap execute and catch balls thrown in their breadbasket the Bengals score is a runaway. I like the team's chances.
    Ravens 21 Browns 13




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    Re: Browns @ Ravens

    Hereís how I see it:

    The Ravens will win BIG because of their Ö Surprise! Surprise! Ė DEFENSE !!

    Last year we lost both starting Corners and our best Pass Rusher early in the season and it killed us. Losing just Samari Rolle, Or Especially Chris McAlister, would be devastating enough, but then you add Trevor Pryce to the list. Despite this, The Ravens still finished SIXTH in the NFL in Total Defense!!

    The whole key to this season and the game on Sunday is how healthy our defense stays. If the D stays healthy all year the skyís the limit for this team. I look for our Defense to DOMINATE EVERYBODY like it did in 2006, setting records along the way.

    With this Defense staying healthy, we only need an average Offense to put up 17 Ė 24 points a game and we will have double digit wins and a Division Title.

    Right now we are almost at full strength, with only Kelly Gregg questionable. I donít see how the Browns are going to score at all! If they couldnít score any TDs against PissBurgh in their own stadium, how do they expect to come in here and get anything other than a token field goal or two. The only way they score a TD is off a return. Cribbs is really the only person that scares me on Clevelandís Team, and heís a little banged up. If he doesnít return a kick for a TD and the defense doesnít score one off a Turnover, I donít see Cleveland getting double digit points!

    That brings me to the Offense! I donít think anybody really realizes just how good our Offensive Line is right now! Iíve been telling everyone around here the whole key to our season was our Offensive Tackles, and so far they look great. And now, we even have Willie Anderson in the mix for some depth there. Gaither looks like he is coming into his own on the left, even Ogden said he has all the tools that he, himself had, he just needs to put it all together. I can see him and Joe Thomas battling for that Pro Bowl spot for years to come! Adam Terry is proving more than adequate on the right side and now has Willie Anderson to back him up/Take his spot. The interior is awesome! With Yanda playing right Tackle last year, it gave him invaluable game experience and has turned him into one Stud of a Guard this year! Jason Brown is already Pro Bowl material and Ben Grubbs will be! As this OL plays more together and Gels, I see them dominating games like our DL does now! Just look what they did in the fourth quarter against Cincy when everyone in the stadium knew we were going to Run! I wouldnít be surprised to see us break some Ravens records for Rushing this year no matter who the Backs are!

    Now the skill positions, this is the best Backfield we have ever had. With McGahee/Rice/McClain running behind Lorenzo Neal at FullBack, I donít see how anyone can stop the Ravens when they decide to run the ball. Not to mention that all four are good receivers out of the Backfield. With Cam Cameron calling the shots, we finally have some imagination & unpredictability on O. Our receivers are more than adequate when healthy, and hopefully Heap has worked out the kinks after the worst game of his career and will return to form. All of this leads to one Major Thing Ė We donít need Joe Flacco to win the game for us!!

    Flacco has shown amazing poise coming from Delaware, and has literally gotten better with every Play! He had one bad throw against Cincy, missing Clayton, I think., coming across the middle on an early third down that would have gone for Big Yardage! Other than that, every other pass was pretty much right on the money! He even had at least four Drops, with one for sure TD drop by Heap, and maybe another by Rice. His numbers could very easily have been 19-29, 250+ yards, and two TDs. And that is the key Ė Pass when we want, not because we have to! I think between The D, the OL, the Running game, & Cam Cameron, they will keep as much pressure as possible off of Flacco to allow him time to grow into the position much the way Toothlessburger grew into the position in Pissburgh.

    Any way you slice it, I donít think Cleveland has the Talent to stay with us right now and look for a 34-3 Ravens Blowout!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gwaihir View Post
    Hereís how I see it:

    The Ravens will win BIG because of their Ö Surprise! Surprise! Ė DEFENSE !!

    Last year we lost both starting Corners and our best Pass Rusher early in the season and it killed us. Losing just Samari Rolle, Or Especially Chris McAlister, would be devastating enough, but then you add Trevor Pryce to the list. Despite this, The Ravens still finished SIXTH in the NFL in Total Defense!!

    The whole key to this season and the game on Sunday is how healthy our defense stays. If the D stays healthy all year the skyís the limit for this team. I look for our Defense to DOMINATE EVERYBODY like it did in 2006, setting records along the way.

    With this Defense staying healthy, we only need an average Offense to put up 17 Ė 24 points a game and we will have double digit wins and a Division Title.

    Right now we are almost at full strength, with only Kelly Gregg questionable. I donít see how the Browns are going to score at all! If they couldnít score any TDs against PissBurgh in their own stadium, how do they expect to come in here and get anything other than a token field goal or two. The only way they score a TD is off a return. Cribbs is really the only person that scares me on Clevelandís Team, and heís a little banged up. If he doesnít return a kick for a TD and the defense doesnít score one off a Turnover, I donít see Cleveland getting double digit points!

    That brings me to the Offense! I donít think anybody really realizes just how good our Offensive Line is right now! Iíve been telling everyone around here the whole key to our season was our Offensive Tackles, and so far they look great. And now, we even have Willie Anderson in the mix for some depth there. Gaither looks like he is coming into his own on the left, even Ogden said he has all the tools that he, himself had, he just needs to put it all together. I can see him and Joe Thomas battling for that Pro Bowl spot for years to come! Adam Terry is proving more than adequate on the right side and now has Willie Anderson to back him up/Take his spot. The interior is awesome! With Yanda playing right Tackle last year, it gave him invaluable game experience and has turned him into one Stud of a Guard this year! Jason Brown is already Pro Bowl material and Ben Grubbs will be! As this OL plays more together and Gels, I see them dominating games like our DL does now! Just look what they did in the fourth quarter against Cincy when everyone in the stadium knew we were going to Run! I wouldnít be surprised to see us break some Ravens records for Rushing this year no matter who the Backs are!

    Now the skill positions, this is the best Backfield we have ever had. With McGahee/Rice/McClain running behind Lorenzo Neal at FullBack, I donít see how anyone can stop the Ravens when they decide to run the ball. Not to mention that all four are good receivers out of the Backfield. With Cam Cameron calling the shots, we finally have some imagination & unpredictability on O. Our receivers are more than adequate when healthy, and hopefully Heap has worked out the kinks after the worst game of his career and will return to form. All of this leads to one Major Thing Ė We donít need Joe Flacco to win the game for us!!

    Flacco has shown amazing poise coming from Delaware, and has literally gotten better with every Play! He had one bad throw against Cincy, missing Clayton, I think., coming across the middle on an early third down that would have gone for Big Yardage! Other than that, every other pass was pretty much right on the money! He even had at least four Drops, with one for sure TD drop by Heap, and maybe another by Rice. His numbers could very easily have been 19-29, 250+ yards, and two TDs. And that is the key Ė Pass when we want, not because we have to! I think between The D, the OL, the Running game, & Cam Cameron, they will keep as much pressure as possible off of Flacco to allow him time to grow into the position much the way Toothlessburger grew into the position in Pissburgh.

    Any way you slice it, I donít think Cleveland has the Talent to stay with us right now and look for a 34-3 Ravens Blowout!!
    I agree with all of this but the part about the Clowns. They do have the talent, I question the coaching and the injury factor is huge. They basicly blew it vs the Steelers. They had plenty of chances to make a play or two and win. They are not going to win many games without getting 21 points, but with a healthy offense that should be no problem against most teams.
    They are very shaky in the secondary right now, but going in to the season they had a bunch of decent young players.

    This is the perfect time to send them down the drain. If you let them linger around they will peel your wall paper and give you a staph infection. Flushe Em down.




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    Re: Browns @ Ravens

    What Gwaihir Said(tm)
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    Re: Browns @ Ravens

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremiah W View Post
    I agree with all of this but the part about the Clowns. They do have the talent, I question the coaching and the injury factor is huge. They basicly blew it vs the Steelers. They had plenty of chances to make a play or two and win. They are not going to win many games without getting 21 points, but with a healthy offense that should be no problem against most teams.
    They are very shaky in the secondary right now, but going in to the season they had a bunch of decent young players.
    The injury factor is what I'm talking about. I'm not talking about who they had coming into the season, but the Talent of the 45 guys they are forced to play with Sunday. I just don't think their 45 can stack up against our 45!

    The loss of Sean Jones, in particular, is a big blow to their defense. On the Ravens first play from scrimmage, I would love to see Gaither cross blocking with Grubbs & Brown!!

    I think if they send Gaither down to Blindside & Crush "Big Baby", with Grubbs & Brown pulling out to take on the DE & OL, then Neal goes barrelling through the Hole to take out the ML, you have one of our Backs One-On-One with the Safety! I see this as a minimum 10-yard gain, and if McGahee/Rice puts a move on the Safety, or McClain simply runs him over, it could go for a lot more!

    Not only that, you then have "Big Baby" looking over his shoulder the rest of the game, wondering when he's going to get Shellacked by Gaither again, minimizing his effectiveness in the middle!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gwaihir View Post
    The injury factor is what I'm talking about. I'm not talking about who they had coming into the season, but the Talent of the 45 guys they are forced to play with Sunday. I just don't think their 45 can stack up against our 45!

    The loss of Sean Jones, in particular, is a big blow to their defense. On the Ravens first play from scrimmage, I would love to see Gaither cross blocking with Grubbs & Brown!!

    I think if they send Gaither down to Blindside & Crush "Big Baby", with Grubbs & Brown pulling out to take on the DE & OL, then Neal goes barrelling through the Hole to take out the ML, you have one of our Backs One-On-One with the Safety! I see this as a minimum 10-yard gain, and if McGahee/Rice puts a move on the Safety, or McClain simply runs him over, it could go for a lot more!

    Not only that, you then have "Big Baby" looking over his shoulder the rest of the game, wondering when he's going to get Shellacked by Gaither again, minimizing his effectiveness in the middle!
    I like the way you think, and I say you are right on with the play calling and all that, but the Browns still have pretty good players on both sides of the ball, and should put up a lot more fight than the Bungles did.

    They have a pretty good front 7 and a very good WR and TE. Jamal can still gash you and pound out extra yards if he gets loose, but the injury to Steinbach should basically eliminate that possibility.

    Should be a good game we win 24-10 but the score will be close for a while.




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    Game: Cleveland at Baltimore (4:15 p.m. ET)

    Venue: M&T Bank Stadium

    Last time at site: On Nov. 18 of last year, Cleveland K Phil Dawson's game-tying field goal at the end of regulation was originally ruled no good, but was reveresed after a brief meeting by the officials. He then nailed a 33-yarder in overtime to give the Browns a 33-30 win.

    Reason for road optimism: The Ravens are one of the Browns' bitter rivals and the Browns have confidence they can go into Baltimore and win after last year's thrilling victory. Cleveland performed better in a home loss to Pittsburgh than it did in a Week 1 defeat to the Cowboys and it has a potent enough offense that at some point it figures to explode.

    Conversely, the Ravens could be in position for a fall. They had an unexpected bye in Week 2, caused by Hurricane Ike, and they are coming off a deceivingly easy victory over the Bengals in Week 1. Joe Flacco played well in that game, but as was seen with Atlanta's Matt Ryan in Week 2, it is tough for a rookie signal caller to maintain consistency. If Flacco makes some mistakes, the Browns will be in position to capitalize as RB Jamal Lewis once again looks to stick it to his former team.


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    Quote Originally Posted by bmorebirds_24 View Post
    by the way dummy it is a total of 5 dropped passes for the sorry ass edwards.


    but anyway i dont care who you root for or where you live take your sorry ass and go worry about the browns this is for BALTIMORE unless you are a ravens fan no need for you to stick around.after all the shit you been writing take a hike.
    who pee'd in your wheaties?




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    Quote Originally Posted by Chef Dawg View Post
    So for the game maybe we can get the sites do position breakdowns of the game, great idea!

    Predictions, good to!

    anyone up for a sig battle?

    We did a sig battle with a Cowboys site (www.cowboyspride.net) where each entry was a position battle...QB vs QB or Wr vs CB or just random players of each team. if anyone is interested, speak up!

    we can have a good time with this!






    Do you guys have a gfx team? or guy?
    anyone want to get in on it?




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    Quote Originally Posted by FredGrau View Post
    If you want to compare positions, you need to compare Ravens offense vs Browns defense (and vice-versa). For example, Jamal will not run against our defense, McGahee probably will.

    Please note that when healthy, the Ravens have the best defense in the NFL. This week, they're healthy. The Bungles have a better offense (not by much though) than the Browns, but couldn't score an offensive TD.

    The only way the Browns win is for them to cause several crucial turnovers. This means it is crucial for the Browns to rattle Flacco all day. If this doesn't happen, the Browns have no chance. My prediction is they will generate one Flacco turnover into 7 points. It won't be enough because the Ravens will do the same with Derek Anderson.

    Prediction: Ravens 20 - Browns 13
    I wouldn't say the Ravens have the best defense in the NFL, even when everyone is 100 percent. Arguably the best against the Run, but only top 10 or so against the pass. They also aren't a great scoring defense. They don't generate as many turnovers as some other squads, and they rarely take it to the house.

    I'd say they are top 5, but there are 3 or 4 other defenses I'd rather have, especially against teams that can throw the ball.

    Still, the Browns have the absolute worst defense in the league, and the Ravens should be able to put up at least 20 on them. Shut down Jamal and the Brownies game plan will fall apart on third and long. Ravens should win this one comforatbly in the cozy confines of M&T.

    Ravens 28
    Brownies 12




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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevlar View Post
    I wouldn't say the Ravens have the best defense in the NFL, even when everyone is 100 percent. Arguably the best against the Run, but only top 10 or so against the pass. They also aren't a great scoring defense. They don't generate as many turnovers as some other squads, and they rarely take it to the house.

    I'd say they are top 5, but there are 3 or 4 other defenses I'd rather have, especially against teams that can throw the ball.

    Still, the Browns have the absolute worst defense in the league, and the Ravens should be able to put up at least 20 on them. Shut down Jamal and the Brownies game plan will fall apart on third and long. Ravens should win this one comforatbly in the cozy confines of M&T.

    Ravens 28
    Brownies 12
    Did you see week 1? C Mac is back, Samari is still solid. Reed is crazy good and Landry is a lumberjacker. When they get a good pass rush, they make more plays than anyone in the NFL, see way back in 2006 when they led the NFL in sacks, picks, points and yards. Now they have Washington and better back up safties as well as some seasoning on the backup CBs. If they stay mostly intact, this will be the #1 pass defense in the NFL. Maybe not in terms of yards because teams will abandon the run, but they will create the most turnovers and surrender the fewest Tds.




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    Re: Browns @ Ravens

    As long as our D is healthy there is no other D in the league I would take over the Ravens. And right now aside from Gregg it sounds like we are pretty darned healthy.

    I think this is going to be a very painful day for Anderson and JLew. Just like I like it.
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    Re: Browns @ Ravens

    Quote Originally Posted by RavenScallywag View Post
    I'm no expert, but here's my breakdown position vs position (I might have to do this in pieces, since it'll take awhile)...

    QB - Flacco vs Anderson - Edge: Anderson - Have to give the edge to Anderson with Flacco being the rookie. Anderson had a great season last year, he's had some early trouble, but I'd give him at least 1 or 2 more games before it drags his stock down

    RB - McGahee vs J Lewis - Edge: Even - I can't see either getting ahead in this matchup. Jamal had a good year last year (that will be a common thread here), but he's always described himself as a guy who needs 20-25 carries a game. He's only had 32 carries, given that you've been playing from behind a lot. Also, I think the wheels are just starting to wear on him, we knew he had a pretty small shelf life left, now I think we're starting to see the decline again. McGahee had some clashes with management early in TC as far as work ethic, but he showed last year he can do a lot of good things running and catching. Add in that we have some depth from Ray Rice, I think we can match what Jamal does

    FB - Vickers vs McClain - Edge: McClain - Kind've a hard one to do, as it appears Vickers is strictly a blocker, but I have to give McClain the edge with the pounding rushing he did against the Bengals. Also add in that we have Lorenzo Neal backing him up, we have the edge there.

    WR - Braylon Edwards/Donte Stallworth/Steptoe? vs Mason/Clayton/Williams - Edge: Browns. I don't think any Baltimore fan would argue this one, our receivers not named Mason have big ? marks. When Stallworth gets healthy, your Offense will get a big boost, because right now we only have to focus on Winslow and Edwards. Who the hell is Steptoe? That said, Clayton only started showing us some life in the Cincy game on his reverse, and Williams has been battling injuries all season.

    TE - Kellen Winslow vs Todd Heap - Edge: Winslow (for now) - Heap is playing like something brown, only because he's getting back from injury and hasn't had the reps. I think he gets better in this game and starts to return to form. But Winslow is at full speed and with Stallworth likely out, he's a bigger factor in your passing game

    OL - Edge: Even - This one is hardest to grade, since I can't find any reports of how the OL for Cleveland has looked. If I had to lean one way, it'd be towards the Ravens, who have a completely healthy OL, while Cleveland is missing Ross Tucker and Eric Steinbach. Joe Thomas is a young promising LT, but Jason Brown is a young promising interior OL.

    DL - Edge: Ravens - The Ravens have arguably one of the best 3 man DL fronts in the league. Pryce is a stalwart veteran whose presence was sorely missed last year, Gregg is constantly one of the most underrated players acknowledged by ALL the NFL, and Ngata is a best, plain and simple. On the Cleveland side, Shaun Rogers will be a tough one to deal with and Corey Williams will be good on the end. What really knocks down the Browns is the loss of Robaire Smith. I equate this somewhat to the loss of Trevor Pryce last year...no depth behind him, and now we can double team the other passrushers without fear of leaving Smith open.

    OLB - JJ/Suggs vs Alex Hall/Wimbley - Edge: Ravens - Wimbley is a nice young LB, but without McGinest, again you are weakend on one side. Suggs has been playing with a vengeance after getting a franchise tender, and JJ is another underrated beast.

    ILB - Ray/Bart Scott vs D'Qwell/Andra Davis - Edge: Ravens, slightly - This would be a close matchup, as Andra Davis and D'Qwell are both really strong LBs, but they just can't match up to the play of Ray Lewis and Bart Scott. Both were big factors blitzing against the Bengals, and both can still make plays in pass coverage and run support very well.

    CB - CMac/Rolle vs Wright/McDonald - Edge: Even - Our CBs are known for their shutdown skills, but lately they've been more injured than not, so we have to give way more often to our backups. Wright/McDonald are showing some promise, but I don't think they've proven anything against top competition yet. I'll give you even, since our starting CBs can also include McFadden and Walker, who one of them showed promise in the preseason and the other should not be on this team.

    FS - Reed vs Pool - Edge: Reed - Reed has some nagging nerve injury, but he came out in Week 1 and played just a slight bit less than the Reed of old. Pool didn't play week 1 and had just 3 tackles in week 2.

    SS - Landry vs S. Jones - Edge: Jones - I think Landry is a good S, but he's not much of a playmaker, whereas Jones had 5 picks last year.

    I think you can't judge position by position though, you need to judge unit vs unit...
    I like alot of what you said here, but I think you're giving the Brownies some credit where it's not really due...

    RB: Jamal's best days have passed and the three headed monster we have in our backfield (along with a competent passing game and OL) is much more solid than what the Browns have. There is no way that I would take their running game over ours.

    TE: I would call this an even split because Winslow has been a non-factor so far this season. Our athletic LBs will be a much better match up against him than their LBs and shaky secondary will be against Heap. Heap will come out with something to prove this week and will be Flacco's safety valve.

    CB (and entire secondary): We have a HUGE advantage here in my opinion. They traded away their best corner and have their playmaking safety out for several weeks. We were better than them last year in this category, and as we have improved alot they have gotten worse for this matchup. I like us here by a big margin.

    In the end, I think we get just enough done to win this game (20-10 possibly). I don't want to sound like a bandwagon Ravens fan, but I've been saying that we are MUCH better than we showed last year with all those injuries. People forgot about us and I think we have alot to show this year!




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