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    Re: Butt Kicked



    Mob, yeah I even heard Suggs say "Its only preseason," in an interview when they asked him about the defense allowing points on opening drives the last two games.

    I hope you are right and the team starts off like gangbusters vs Tampa Bay.
    I still think by setting this tone it will carryover into the first few games of regular season.
    Put the smile back on your face.This is a 60 minute ball game.




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    I hope you are right and the team starts off like gangbusters vs Tampa Bay.
    I am not saying they will, but the chances are better when the other team hasn't seen your playbook.


    I still think by setting this tone it will carryover into the first few games of regular season.
    Setting a tone goes both ways. Our team may look at this as reality check. Ask Tony Dungee, Indy lost all 4 games last pre-season.




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    What I'm afraid of Mob,is a guy with Sugg's outlook saying its only preseason.
    And then saying its only week one,its only week two,its a long season.

    When the Ravens get in a mental funk,they seem to sink real deep as a team.And haven't got the firepower offensively to dig themself out of that rut.

    Its frustrating to see the team come out looking like they have taken a step backwards in week 3 of preseason.
    Put the smile back on your face.This is a 60 minute ball game.




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    What I'm afraid of Mob,is a guy with Sugg's outlook saying its only preseason.
    And then saying its only week one,its only week two,its a long season.

    I hear that, but it hasn't happend yet and these guys haven't even played a full 60 minute game yet.

    It simply too early for any of us to start getting bent out of shape.




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    If the offense keeps up like last night, Ray Lewis is going to get his panties in a wad again and bring the defense down, too.

    Frankly, the coaches have some serious work cut out for them then next three weeks.




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    I'm with MOBTOWN on the preseason bit. I've been saying that on the other boards. Billick wasn't going to show his hand and wasn't going to do much anyway in a pre-season game.
    Maybe, but if that's true, Billick deserves an Oscar for his acting performance - he looked way more than perturbed. He looked royally p*ssed off.

    And what consolation is it if we didn't run the plays we were saving for the Tampa game? We still should've been able to execute the plays we did run far more successfully.




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    But it was only preseason.
    I normally roll with this excuse through week 2 of pre-season. Friday night's game was the main indicator of where we are and how capable we are of executing, all be it vanilla, plays. This time last year, following repeated O-line failures and piss poor offense, 'it's only pre-season' was banded around frequently. If you don't play hard in pre-season, you can't expect to be in the required shape, mentally and physically, to go to Tampa and play like you should. Even if Fassel is keeping things simple, there is no excuse for the ineptitude of the O-line. If they're getting beaten this badly in pre-season, why would we expect them to be able to stop the top D-linemen in the league when it counts?

    Minnesota were also only playing a pre-season game on Friday, but did so with professionalism, determination and execution. The fact that we didn't, again on the road, has to be cause for concern.




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    Quote Originally Posted by TRAP
    I'm with MOBTOWN on the preseason bit. I've been saying that on the other boards. Billick wasn't going to show his hand and wasn't going to do much anyway in a pre-season game. As someone posted on the game thread, it looked like they were playing not to get hurt. But it was only preseason. We just kicked their butts here a few months ago and knocked them out of a PO spot in a regular season game.
    Sorry, but I don't agree with any of this. I'm sick of the "it's only preseason" excuses. This team has shown nothing to indicate they are ready for the opener in Tampa. The whole "saving the playbook" excuse doesn't fly either. Billick looked so pissed off and now wants to play his starters longer because he was saving his good plays for Tampa?




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    Quote Originally Posted by losac
    Billick looked so pissed off and now wants to play his starters longer because he was saving his good plays for Tampa?
    That's BRILLIANT Billick logic. Wait until the games count to start testing plays instead of in pre-season where you're able to test them, work out all the kinks, etc.

    BRILLIANT I tell you, BRILLIANT.




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    The whole "saving the playbook" excuse doesn't fly either. Billick looked so pissed off and now wants to play his starters longer because he was saving his good plays for Tampa?
    Billick was pissed for several reasons.

    1. Officiating was terrible again.
    2. Mental mistakes like false starts and personal fouls.
    3. Missed opportunities - i.e. Stover's missed FG.
    4. Poor execution - The line protection breakdowns, poor route running, and bad decisions by his new QB are all completely independant of the plays being called. It shouldnt matter if the playbook was vanilla, his team should still execute well.
    5. Our $100m secondary looked like complete shit. Min was passing the ball on us at will and when our DBs did catch up they were whiffing on the tackles.

    These are football basics that are being missed by his supposedly professional team. None of that has anything to do with "saving the playbook" and all of it is good reason for him to be pissed and for us to be afraid.

    He is was also probably pissed because ultimately, the poor execution of the basics are 100% on HIS shoulders.




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    If I'm Billick, I play the starters the entire first half on Thursday as a penalty for the obvious sleepwalk job pulled last Friday. And I say "and you'll stay out there until I am satisfied that you can play like professionals".

    Injuries? I would not let that enter into the thought process. Injuries can happen during camp, during scrimmages and during pickup basketball games.

    I'm tired of seeing this team go out overconfident and lay eggs. Ever since that Oakland game in December 2003, we've been witness to some of the most uninspired flops in the last five years - including a season opening turd in Cleveland in '04; pretty much the entire '05 season against inferior opponents (Titans, Lions, Jets, Houston, Cleveland).

    If you don't play with passion in this league, you don't win. The talent differential is simply too small.


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    I understand what you're saying Mobtown, but I'm referring more to those making excuses for the team's performance by saying "it's only preseason", or "the playbook wasn't fully opened up", or "we would have won if the starters played the whole game".




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    I think most of us that are siding with punishing the starting unit for their laxidasical performance vs the Vikes.See it as a lesson to teach the players that this will not be tolerated in,practise,preaseason and of course regular season.
    Put the smile back on your face.This is a 60 minute ball game.




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    Re: Butt Kicked

    The "it's only preseason" only applies to the score. The execution of your first team does count. They looked like shit.




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    After Friday's game, how can everyone suddenly conclude that we're the same offense as last year?

    Did everyone suddenly forget about our first 2 pre-season games? Did everyone forget that we moved the ball at will against a very potent Philly defense? At what point last year, could we move the ball, like we were doing against NYG & PHI??

    This time last week, we were commenting on the difference McNair had made to this efficient offense. One bad half of offensive football, and suddenly "we are absolutely no better off than last year".

    Seriously, c'mon.




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